End of game ejection

[reffish]

Final horn sounds, H35 leaps off bench and starts to celebrate first win of their season. He leaps and bounds across the court and bumps into V5. My partner steps in between the two to separate them, they exchange words that I do not hear and then they step up to each other with fists clenched. At this point, I blow my whistle and announce the ejection of the two players. Coaches are at each respective player and have pulled them to their bench area. As we sort out the issues, the AD from the V comes up and starts to plead her case to exercise discretion regarding the report to be filed. My question or doubt is if the response by my partner, (should have talked about it and then file an incident report, not an ejection report) or my immediate ejection of both players was warranted. My thought process was the confrontation was after the final horn, we had not left the visual confines of the court, issuing a T would carry not consequence; therefore an ejection seemed appropriate at time. Questions and feedback? Thanks.

[bob jenkins]

Treat it as you would have treated it if it happened during the game. Was it flagrant, and thus an ejection? Or was it "just" a "standard" T?

[tref]

Originally Posted by reffish

Final horn sounds

We are outta there!

[bainsey]

Just to be clear, was H35's contact of V5 accidental, or was there targeting?

[Adam]

Don't call it a flagrant just so there are consequences. As bob insinutated, if you would call it a standard double T in the first quarter, go with that. If you would have gone flagrant with that action 1 minute in, go ahead. Don't change the ruling just so the consequences fit your sense of fairness.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Treat it as you would have treated it if it happened during the game. Was it flagrant, and thus an ejection? Or was it "just" a "standard" T?

+1

Common sense and following the rules.

[reffish]

That's the thing, if this happens in the 1st quarter, am I ejecting. Well, hindsight, no, just a double T. However, H35 actions did not come off as incidental, more on lines of taunting. Then V5 reacted and then both squared up with closed fists. So now, I am leaning toward just a double T and if no consequences, then fine. I have to say that I reacted instead of being proactive; however, because my partner stepped in to separate, and then they continued to get closer and square up and clench fists I went with ejection.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by reffish

That's the thing, if this happens in the 1st quarter, am I ejecting. Well, hindsight, no, just a double T. However, H35 actions did not come off as incidental, more on lines of taunting. Then V5 reacted and then both squared up with closed fists. So now, I am leaning toward just a double T and if no consequences, then fine. I have to say that I reacted instead of being proactive; however, because my partner stepped in to separate, and then they continued to get closer and square up and clench fists I went with ejection.

I still would have gone with the double T. Maybe you could justify two double Ts here rather than a single Double Flagrant T.
Again, though, I wouldn't change my call simply because I wanted there to be some sort of repercussions. Call the double T and file your report to the state (even if it's only required for DQs).

[tref]

The way officials RUN off the court when final horn sounds, I'm still trying to figure out why they saw this?

Best to exit opposite table...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

The way officials RUN off the court when final horn sounds, I'm still trying to figure out why they saw this?

Best to exit opposite table...

Obviously true, but sometimes you have to run across the court to leave.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Obviously true, but sometimes you have to run across the court to leave.

If you leave opposite the table, you might have to keep going for 25000 miles to get to the locker room. Seems like a steep price to pay.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Obviously true, but sometimes you have to run across the court to leave.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If you leave opposite the table, you might have to keep going for 25000 miles to get to the locker room. Seems like a steep price to pay.

I guess...

I request that my guys dont fiddle with the ball, wait for praise, shake anybodys hand or believe the winning team when they say "nice job!"
Lets just get out of there!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

I guess...

I request that my guys dont fiddle with the ball, wait for praise, shake anybodys hand or believe the winning team when they say "nice job!"
Lets just get out of there!

Oh, I agree. You won't see me doing anything but making a bee line for the door. But I'm not going to ignore a brewing fight, either, if I practically have to trip over it to get out.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Oh, I agree. You won't see me doing anything but making a bee line for the door. But I'm not going to ignore a brewing fight, either, if I practically have to trip over it to get out.

I can dig it!

[reffish]

Originally Posted by tref

The way officials RUN off the court when final horn sounds, I'm still trying to figure out why they saw this?

Best to exit opposite table...

Yeah, I am one of those that will hold the door open for my partner after teh game...get out. However, this game site did not provide us with this opportunity. Our bags were behind the table and the only exit is behind the table. The player jumped right up and made contact within 3 seconds. We had to address the situation then and were stuck there.