Tumbling/traveling

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's a travel to touch the ground with anything other than the foot / hand after holding the ball. Since the player already had the hip on the floor, he can't travel by gathering the ball and touching the floor with other the shoulder / arm / leg, etc.

That underlined part is my hang up, I saw the hip as being the "pivot" but I can't find where it says that the hip can be a pivot, but I know a player can sit up with the ball while laying flat on their back and its not traveling, so it made me think that this isn't traveling since the hip hit first then the ball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

That underlined part is my hang up, I saw the hip as being the "pivot" but I can't find where it says that the hip can be a pivot, but I know a player can sit up with the ball while laying flat on their back and its not traveling, so it made me think that this isn't traveling since the hip hit first then the ball.

You cannot find anything because there is no such thing. Do not try to make a rule out of what you "think" is a definition.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

That underlined part is my hang up, I saw the hip as being the "pivot" but I can't find where it says that the hip can be a pivot, but I know a player can sit up with the ball while laying flat on their back and its not traveling, so it made me think that this isn't traveling since the hip hit first then the ball.

Nothing but a foot can be a pivot, in spite of some cute jokes to the contrary.
Something other that hand or foot touching when player gains control, no travel unless player attempts to get up. What constitutes an attempt to get up is a bit of a gray area. Use your best judgment.