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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 10:02am
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I am looking to clarify NFHS case book rule 4.12.6 please?

Example: A1 is the inbounds passer on the baseline in the front court of the basket he is shooting at. His pass tips off the fingers of A2 in the front court and the ball is then recovered by A3 in the backcourt.

Is this a backcourt violation?

also while on the topic, if a team calls a timeout with the ball in the back court does the back court 10 seconds seconds count start over again or pick up from where it left off?
please cite rule references if possible?

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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 10:13am
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No violation.
restart 10 sec. count.
Also, in your example you start the 10 sec. count when the ball goes in the back court.
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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 10:18am
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Bart is correct. No violation because there was no team control in the frontcourt once the ball was inbounded.

And yes the 10 second count starts over.

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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 10:25am
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Question When do you start the 10 second count?

When the ball goes to the backcourt? Or when the ball is touched in the backcourt?

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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 10:40am
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also while on the topic, if a team calls a timeout with the ball in the back court does the back court 10 seconds seconds count start over again or pick up from where it left off?
please cite rule references if possible?
Starts over again.See Casebook play 9.8SitC.
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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 10:46am
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Re: When do you start the 10 second count?

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When the ball goes to the backcourt? Or when the ball is touched in the backcourt?

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The 10 second count starts when the player establishes control in the back court.See part B of casebook 4.12.6.
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Bart is correct. No violation because there was no team control in the frontcourt once the ball was inbounded.

And yes the 10 second count starts over.

MJ
And when coach B complains that the 10 second count starts over, you remind him that it cost coach A a time-out to get that new 10 seconds. I don't know why it never occurs to them on their own.
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Re: Re: When do you start the 10 second count?

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When the ball goes to the backcourt? Or when the ball is touched in the backcourt?

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The 10 second count starts when the player establishes control in the back court.See part B of casebook 4.12.6.
To make this a little more generic...the 10 second count starts when their is team control of a ball in that is in the backcourt. Doesn't necessarily have to be player control in the backcourt.
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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 01:54pm
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Just to finish clearing up the 10sec. rule; Team A in control in front court, Player A1 attempts a pass to A2, B2 tips the ball into the back court. The 10sec. count starts when the ball touches the back court.
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Bart is correct. No violation because there was no team control in the frontcourt once the ball was inbounded.

And yes the 10 second count starts over.

MJ
And when coach B complains that the 10 second count starts over, you remind him that it cost coach A a time-out to get that new 10 seconds. I don't know why it never occurs to them on their own.
I prefer to just tell them it's in the rules and we really
should not have to discuss it.
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I know it's not why Troward's asking, but in the NBA, the answer is that you do not re-start the count, and the count is only to 8.

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Old Thu Oct 31, 2002, 09:33pm
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Re: Re: Re: When do you start the 10 second count?

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When the ball goes to the backcourt? Or when the ball is touched in the backcourt?

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The 10 second count starts when the player establishes control in the back court.See part B of casebook 4.12.6.
To make this a little more generic...the 10 second count starts when their is team control of a ball in that is in the backcourt. Doesn't necessarily have to be player control in the backcourt.
Yes, but on this play, Rut gets one right. The count doesn't start until A possesses the ball in the BC because there was not team control on the throw-in.
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Yes, but on this play, Rut gets one right. The count doesn't start until A possesses the ball in the BC because there was not team control on the throw-in.
How old are you?

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