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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 02:53pm
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Kicked a Player Control Foul

Had a play last night that I blew. A1 has the ball at the top of the key and I am in the Trail. B1 is applying heavy pressure on A1 and A1 begins to pivot to keep the ball safe. As he does he barely (and I mean barely) knicks B1 with the elbow in the face. I didn't see the contact as it again, barely caught B1. But it was enough to make B1 hold his eye and stop defensive pressure.

I don't know what the heck stopped me from having a whistle. I guess not seeing the contact I didn't feel right on having anything, but B1 was affected. I hate to go by the reaction of a defensive player but I believe B1 was contacted and enough to cause a disadvantage. I just hate I screwed this one up, especially after we had a good one on the other end (more contact involved however).

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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 03:00pm
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You can't call what you don't see. You saw the reaction to the supposed contact - not the actual contact.

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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 03:01pm
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And you've never seen a flop before? You didn't call what you didn't see. It was the correct call.
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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 03:04pm
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And you've never seen a flop before? You didn't call what you didn't see. It was the correct call.
Film work allows us to see why we didn't see it & doesnt let us lean on 'I didn't see it so I didn't call it." Incorrect no-calls are just as big as incorrect calls.
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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 03:09pm
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Film work allows us to see why we didn't see it & doesnt let us lean on 'I didn't see it so I didn't call it." Incorrect no-calls are just as big as incorrect calls.
And you still should not call what you did not see. Sometimes stuff happens we don't see. Should we just start guessing? Try to interpret reactions? Hmmm, I just saw a coach snap a look at me so I'll be he was getting personal about my last call and I'm guessing he called me an incompetent jerk so WHACK! ???
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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 03:14pm
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And you still should not call what you did not see. Sometimes stuff happens we don't see. Should we just start guessing? Try to interpret reactions? Hmmm, I just saw a coach snap a look at me so I'll be he was getting personal about my last call and I'm guessing he called me an incompetent jerk so WHACK! ???
Nah never said ANY of that...

Was just offering a solution to a problem as "tape dont lie."

Many times we say I didnt see it so I didnt call it, pack it up & head home never to think about it again. Personally, I want to see:
1. If I did really miss it
2. Why did I miss it
3. What can I do to not miss it next time

But hey, thats just me...
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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 03:01pm
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Work harder to get open looks at plays...

Perhaps you can get a copy of the film? How was my position, where was my head & eyes looking & how can I referee this play better next time, can all be answered by doing honest self assessment through video review. JMO
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Old Wed Jan 26, 2011, 03:08pm
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Work harder to get open looks at plays...

Perhaps you can get a copy of the film? How was my position, where was my head & eyes looking & how can I referee this play better next time, can all be answered by doing honest self assessment through video review. JMO
It was just a weird situation. I was squared up to the play and looking in between the 2 players involved. But again either I zoned out and just missed it or it didn't occur. None the less there wasn't a big reaction from the coach, other than saying he was slightly cut.

In the end the offensive team didn't score on the play.
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