chicken wing?

[Adam]

If the defender isn't attempting to get around the offensive player, it seems like nothing. If he is, and it stops him, easy TC call (if you're looking at it).

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the defender isn't attempting to get around the offensive player, it seems like nothing. If he is, and it stops him, easy TC call (if you're looking at it).

+1 Just had this same call in my last game. A little earlier in the game I had yelled at the kid to quit holding.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

+1 Just had this same call in my last game. A little earlier in the game I had yelled at the kid to quit holding.

Did the opposing coach ask if you were gonna coach his kid too?

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by tref

Did the opposing coach ask if you were gonna coach his kid too?

No,
I'm pretty consistent at the beginning of all my games to say it on both ends. This sometimes sets the tone so rough play doesn't escalate. As time goes by, (the last 30 years) basketball is getting to be way more physical, unfortunately in my opinion, bball should not resemble football, I've always believed bball is more of a game of finesse. 30 years ago way less contact was allowed especially with screens and blocking out.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

No,
I'm pretty consistent at the beginning of all my games to say it on both ends. This sometimes sets the tone so rough play doesn't escalate. As time goes by, (the last 30 years) basketball is getting to be way more physical, unfortunately in my opinion, bball should not resemble football, I've always believed bball is more of a game of finesse. 30 years ago way less contact was allowed especially with screens and blocking out.

I agree, but generic terms such as "straight" or "easy" arent directed to the O or D & is less subject to being interpreted as coaching.

I'm sure the coach of the kid being chicken winged wanted the foul...

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by tref

I agree, but generic terms such as "straight" or "easy" arent directed to the O or D & is less subject to being interpreted as coaching.

You're overanalyzing it. Absolutely nothing wrong with "Don't push!" "Don't hold," "Get out of the lane." It preventive officiating. It's got nothing to do with coaching.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You're overanalyzing it. Absolutely nothing wrong with "Don't push!" "Don't hold," "Get out of the lane." It preventive officiating. It's got nothing to do with coaching.

Agree. Compare: "get open in the post" or "set a pick." One is about avoiding fouls and violations, which we enforce; the other is about strategy and tactics.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle

No,
I'm pretty consistent at the beginning of all my games to say it on both ends. This sometimes sets the tone so rough play doesn't escalate. As time goes by, (the last 30 years) basketball is getting to be way more physical, unfortunately in my opinion, bball should not resemble football, I've always believed bball is more of a game of finesse. 30 years ago way less contact was allowed especially with screens and blocking out.

+1^9 (Wait that's still 1) Could not agree more.

[chartrusepengui]

happens a lot around here. Tweet - team foul - hold.

They learn quick. If I see it starting again I might say "straight up" once. Then if they need the hard lesson we can do it all over again.

[APG]

The "chicken wing" I was envisioning is the play where the post player does a drop step/spin move and in the process uses an elbow out at the side to get past the defender.

But to the OP, I have called this before. If the defender is attempting to get around the offense player, it's an easy foul going the other way. If the defender is content with his position, then I have nothing.