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Old Thu Jan 20, 2011, 12:19pm
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I don't need or want the fist bump/hand shake during player introductions...I'll interact with the players DURING THE GAME.
I disagree strongly.

Dissuading sportsmanship is not the way to go. If the players want to take a few extra seconds and shake/bump our hands, enjoy the respect. I'll even notify the coach of a "best handshake award" (firm, eye contact).

When the teams stress respect for us, it can only make thing better. To even suggest that you don't want handshakes only makes us more distant and unapproachable.
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Old Thu Jan 20, 2011, 12:39pm
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I disagree strongly.

Dissuading sportsmanship is not the way to go. If the players want to take a few extra seconds and shake/bump our hands, enjoy the respect. I'll even notify the coach of a "best handshake award" (firm, eye contact).

When the teams stress respect for us, it can only make thing better. To even suggest that you don't want handshakes only makes us more distant and unapproachable.
I agree! In addition to our attire upon arriving at the school & taking the floor in a professional manner, the fist bump only helps set the the tone prior to the toss.
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Old Thu Jan 20, 2011, 02:06pm
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Dissuading sportsmanship is not the way to go..
Who said anything about "dissuading sportsmanship"?

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enjoy the respect.
Respect? The coach probably MAKES them do the hand bump/shake...so they don't SEEM disrespectful, since almost every team does it now.


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To even suggest that you don't want handshakes only makes us more distant and unapproachable.
Brother... Then there must be a lot of "distant and unapproachable" conferences, associations, and officials who would prefer this formality go away. Like I said...I'll interact with the players DURING THE GAME.

Hey, if you think you need a fist bump with the kids to show your "sportsmanship"...fine...but, to question ones lack of respect or approachability because they would prefer not to, is silly...IMHO.
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Old Thu Jan 20, 2011, 02:30pm
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Who said anything about "dissuading sportsmanship"?

Respect? The coach probably MAKES them do the hand bump/shake...so they don't SEEM disrespectful, since almost every team does it now.

Brother... Then there must be a lot of "distant and unapproachable" conferences, associations, and officials who would prefer this formality go away. Like I said...I'll interact with the players DURING THE GAME.

Hey, if you think you need a fist bump with the kids to show your "sportsmanship"...fine...but, to question ones lack of respect or approachability because they would prefer not to, is silly...IMHO.
I agree, while I have no issue with the handshakes/fistbumps per se, I'm not under any illusions that they are some sort of altruistic display of sportsmanship either.

It's like my 5 y/o son saying please; he does it because he's told to (most of the time).

And to even suggest that one person suggesting he doesn't care for the pleasantries means anything with regard to approachability is the very definition of "non sequitur." It's also hyperbole.
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And to even suggest that one person suggesting he doesn't care for the pleasantries means anything with regard to approachability is the very definition of "non sequitur." It's also hyperbole.
...yeah, what Snaq's said...only a lot more articulate and with bigger words!

Hey Snaq's...have you ever heard an official comment on what is the WORST 15 minutes of basketball?

You can probably guess...but, I agreed.
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Old Thu Jan 20, 2011, 02:46pm
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...yeah, what Snaq's said...only a lot more articulate and with bigger words!

Hey Snaq's...have you ever heard an official comment on what is the WORST 15 minutes of basketball?

You can probably guess...but, I agreed.
LOL, I'm guessing the last 15:00 before tipoff.
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LOL, I'm guessing the last 15:00 before tipoff.
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Hey Snaq's...have you ever heard an official comment on what is the WORST 15 minutes of basketball?
The last 30 seconds of a 7th Grade C game?
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The last 30 seconds of a 7th Grade C game?
...now that's funny!
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Hey Snaq's...have you ever heard an official comment on what is the WORST 15 minutes of basketball?
We have to do 20 minutes here in WI. Last night, the tallest player (girl's game) on the floor was 5'10".

I walked up to my partner and said, "You know, for every 3 games we work, that's 1 hour of our lives we'll never get back."

Fortunately for us both teams went in, so we did too for a few minutes until the teams came back out. Gave us a chance to discard the jackets and for me to get a bit more stretching in away from the eyes of the parents and fans.
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We have to do 20 minutes here in WI. Last night, the tallest player (girl's game) on the floor was 5'10".

I walked up to my partner and said, "You know, for every 3 games we work, that's 1 hour of our lives we'll never get back."

Fortunately for us both teams went in, so we did too for a few minutes until the teams came back out. Gave us a chance to discard the jackets and for me to get a bit more stretching in away from the eyes of the parents and fans.
My partner and I talk about that all the time how much is wasted watching...nothing. When we first started doing JV the 5 minutes between the end of our game and the start of the varsity was valuable. We got to pick the varsity guy's brains on things that happened during our game etc. We also got to know them a little bit personally as well which goes along way.
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I walked up to my partner and said, "You know, for every 3 games we work, that's 1 hour of our lives we'll never get back."
LOL...that's good...mind if I borrow that?

On a side note: My partners and I were ready to go into the gym last night for a BV game... I had read, on this forum, where some officials tweet their whistles before entering the gym. I told my two partners about it...one said yeah go for it...the other said no, (with a red face). Well, I did it...Man, the whole gym got quiet and watched us as we walked in. It was kinda weird...I don't know if I'll do it again.
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LOL...that's good...mind if I borrow that?

On a side note: My partners and I were ready to go into the gym last night for a BV game... I had read, on this forum, where some officials tweet their whistles before entering the gym. I told my two partners about it...one said yeah go for it...the other said no, (with a red face). Well, I did it...Man, the whole gym got quiet and watched us as we walked in. It was kinda weird...I don't know if I'll do it again.
Sounds like you were a military volunteer whereby everyone else took a step backwards.
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Old Fri Jan 21, 2011, 11:48am
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Who said anything about "dissuading sportsmanship"?
Actions speak louder than words. If you prefer not to receive a handshake from a player, you're sending a message that sportsmanship isn't important to you. Interpersonal relations go a long way on the floor.

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Respect? The coach probably MAKES them do the hand bump/shake...so they don't SEEM disrespectful, since almost every team does it now.
And why do coaches make the players do it? Because coaches are role models -- as are we -- and it's the right thing to teach the kids.

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Hey, if you think you need a fist bump with the kids to show your "sportsmanship"...fine...but, to question ones lack of respect or approachability because they would prefer not to, is silly...IMHO.
Never said we "need" it; that's up to the players and coaches. I'm saying it's bad to discourage it. If a player wants to pay us some respect, accept it with a smile. If you prefer to be jaded, that could come back to haunt you later.
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Actions speak louder than words
...suggesting a lack of interpersonal relations, the RIGHT thing to do, BAD to discourage it, jaded, it can haunt you...

I'm with Snaqs, once again...HPERBOLE at it's finest.
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