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Old Sun Jan 16, 2011, 09:18pm
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By the way, exactly when a timeout is granted is not defined in the rules. An editorial revision is needed.
It when the whistle is sounded. That is the only logical reason for the timer to stop the clock and the players to cease action. It is also the only one of the rules under 6-7 for making the ball dead which applies to time-out requests during a live ball.
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Old Sun Jan 16, 2011, 09:34pm
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It when the whistle is sounded. That is the only logical reason for the timer to stop the clock and the players to cease action. It is also the only one of the rules under 6-7 for making the ball dead which applies to time-out requests during a live ball.
When I suggested something to this effect once, an angry mob formed.
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Old Sun Jan 16, 2011, 09:47pm
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It when the whistle is sounded. That is the only logical reason for the timer to stop the clock and the players to cease action. It is also the only one of the rules under 6-7 for making the ball dead which applies to time-out requests during a live ball.
Here we go again. Can I just summarize the argument that will now ensue so we can all skip having it?

"No, it isn't."

"Yes, it is."

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Old Sun Jan 16, 2011, 10:32pm
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Here we go again. Can I just summarize the argument that will now ensue so we can all skip having it?

"No, it isn't."

"Yes, it is."

Thank you.


Thanks for that, Rich.
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Old Mon Jan 17, 2011, 07:33am
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Here we go again. Can I just summarize the argument that will now ensue so we can all skip having it?
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Old Mon Jan 17, 2011, 07:40am
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Here we go again. Can I just summarize the argument that will now ensue so we can all skip having it?

"No, it isn't."

"Yes, it is."

Thank you.
You're welcome.

Consider it skipped.
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Old Mon Jan 17, 2011, 02:34pm
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If you do the timeout, the disconcertion is moot. It can, however, be unsporting and disconcertion.
Not necessarily. If you have disconcertion (delayed) and have the timeout before A1 shoots, the delayed violation carries through the timeout and the first shot will resume with a delayed violation pending. A timeout doesn't erase a delayed violation.
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Old Mon Jan 17, 2011, 02:40pm
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Not necessarily. If you have disconcertion (delayed) and have the timeout before A1 shoots, the delayed violation carries through the timeout and the first shot will resume with a delayed violation pending. A timeout doesn't erase a delayed violation.
Good point, I'd forgotten about that.
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Old Mon Jan 17, 2011, 03:02pm
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If you granted the timeout, there's no disconcertion, because there's no free throw.
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Old Mon Jan 17, 2011, 03:26pm
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If you granted the timeout, there's no disconcertion, because there's no free throw.
Soooooooo........

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