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BillyMac Sun Jan 09, 2011 08:11pm
The Sound Of Silence (Simon and Garfunkel) ...
 
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Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 713828)
You're not alone then, because it seems that girls basketball games are the same no matter where you are. Emotional players, coaches, and especially fans.....more so than in boys games. I've heard several coaches this year do this (usually girls coaches). They don't say much at all most of the game and then when they're down 15 with a minute left they start with these types of comments. Very annoying.
I had just the opposite problem this year. Well not really a problem, not really annoying, but just downright odd. Small school girls varsity game. New head coach. Young woman, probably mid, late, twenties.

She doesn't say, "Boo", to us the entire game. Close out of bounds plays? Nothing. Close block charge situation? We could hear crickets chirping. Rough incidental contact puts her player on the floor? Nada. She sat on her bench almost the entire game, occasionally standing to coach her kids. Never said a word to us after the pregame coaches, and captains meeting. Not a single word. Really.

Sounds like a perfect situation. Right? Wrong. She was freaking me out. Really. She was freaking me out. I've been doing this for thirty years, and she was freaking me out with her silence. Thinking about blocking out her school next year. Man, she was really freaking me out.

just another ref Sun Jan 09, 2011 08:16pm
I have the solution to your problem.


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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 713866)
We could hear crickets chirping.


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chseagle Sun Jan 09, 2011 09:15pm
Game management here is (as RookieDude knows) the AD, the Principal, Vice Principal, my wife, my mother, my father, & myself. That's for a WIAA 1A Classification school.

At least the guy was polite in leaving.

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 713768)
Game management at small schools tends to be an athletic director who has more to do than be at our disposal every minute of the game. It's understood that if we need the AD, we get someone at the table to either radio the AD or find him.

My partner saw the AD in the corner and started walking towards him (I had already returned from reporting the foul). He said, "Where's the AD?" and the guy said, "Don't bother, I'm leaving" and he got up and left. Had he not, he would've been escorted out by the AD.

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 09, 2011 09:19pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 713891)
Game management here is (as RookieDude knows) the AD, the Principal, Vice Principal, my wife, my mother, my father, & myself.
Does everybody get a vote? If so, why don't you vote the Principal and the Principal In Charge of Vice off the island and declare yourself king?

Judtech Sun Jan 09, 2011 09:38pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 713866)
I had just the opposite problem this year. Well not really a problem, not really annoying, but just downright odd. Small school girls varsity game. New head coach. Young woman, probably mid, late, twenties.

She doesn't say, "Boo", to us the entire game. Close out of bounds plays? Nothing. Close block charge situation? We could hear crickets chirping. Rough incidental contact puts her player on the floor? Nada. She sat on her bench almost the entire game, occasionally standing to coach her kids. Never said a word to us after the pregame coaches, and captains meeting. Not a single word. Really.

Sounds like a perfect situation. Right? Wrong. She was freaking me out. Really. She was freaking me out. I've been doing this for thirty years, and she was freaking me out with her silence. Thinking about blocking out her school next year. Man, she was really freaking me out.
Do you have game film? I might have a certain someone close to me that would benefit domestically from this type of behavior!

refiator Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:56pm
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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 713534)
Call me a b@[email protected] fan is gone.
Absolutely. Have game management escort him/her to the parking lot.

chseagle Mon Jan 10, 2011 07:33am
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 713894)
Does everybody get a vote? If so, why don't you vote the Principal and the Principal In Charge of Vice off the island and declare yourself king?
There's no need for a vote, as we have specific procedures that must be followed depending on the situation.

There's a set chain of command in place.

Corndog89 Mon Jan 10, 2011 02:22pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 713894)
Does everybody get a vote? If so, why don't you vote the Principal and the Principal In Charge of Vice off the island and declare yourself king?
Quote:
Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 713999)
There's no need for a vote, as we have specific procedures that must be followed depending on the situation.

There's a set chain of command in place.
If a tree falls in the forest but no one hears it does the irony void the sarcasm? :confused:

RookieDude Mon Jan 10, 2011 03:04pm
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 713891)
Game management here is (as RookieDude knows) the AD, the Principal, Vice Principal, my wife, my mother, my father, & myself. That's for a WIAA 1A Classification school.
...actually, I did not know we had so many Chiefs amongst so few Indians.;)

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Does everybody get a vote? If so, why don't you vote the Principal and the Principal In Charge of Vice off the island and declare yourself king?

(Woody...you are one guy I would like to have a brewsky with.):D

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 10, 2011 03:19pm
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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 714172)

(Woody...you are one guy I would like to have a brewsky with.):D
I'm currently having one for both of us, Dan. Even as we speak.....:D

BillyMac Mon Jan 10, 2011 07:17pm
Pray Tell ...
 
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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 714172)
Woody.
Who is this "Woody" that you speak of?

Jurassic Referee Mon Jan 10, 2011 07:59pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 714283)
Who is this "Woody" that you speak of?
In North Carolina, it's spelled "Woddy". Just saying.....

chseagle Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:10am
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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 714172)
...actually, I did not know we had so many Chiefs amongst so few Indians.;)
The primary chiefs are the AD, Principal, & Vice Principal (it all depends who is closest to the situation).

Concerning fan ejections, the AD, principal, &/or Vice Principal have the final say unless told by an official.

just another ref Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:36am
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 714379)
Concerning fan ejections, the AD, principal, &/or Vice Principal have the final say unless told by an official.
Then who has the final say?

chseagle Tue Jan 11, 2011 01:16am
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 714387)
Then who has the final say?
IOW if told by an official to eject a fan, it has to be done. Otherwise the AD, Principal, or Vice Principal have the final say.


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