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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 07:01pm
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The :15 second warning horn for intermissions is only between quarters, not before the game or end of halftime.
No, it's not. Do you have a rule reference? Note I'm not asking how it's practiced in your area, I'm asking if you have a rule reference that tells you the :15 horn is only for quarters.
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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 07:13pm
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If the horn is to sound :15 secs. prior to the start of the game/3rd quarter, then every timer is guilty & it's not enforced.

2-12-2 is the timer notifying the scorer that they need to be at the table, however 9.95 times out of 10 the scorer is at the table.
The :15 horn I've only heard between quarters, not before the game or at end of halftime (was the same way when I was Boys' Basketball Manager 10+ years ago).

The only reference found is 2-12-4, however during halftime we sound the minute horn before expiration, not once have been told to sound the horn at :15, except for between quarters.

For Varsity games, the clock never runs down to :00.0 during pregame, as when the minute horn sounds the teams are at benches & introductions are started with the clock reset to 8:00.

Looks like I'll have to e-mail Cindy Adsit & ask what the state's interpretation is.

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No, it's not. Do you have a rule reference? Note I'm not asking how it's practiced in your area, I'm asking if you have a rule reference that tells you the :15 horn is only for quarters.
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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 07:17pm
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Looks like I'll have to e-mail Cindy Adsit & ask what the state's interpretation is.
Don't bother:

2-12-4: Sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an
intermission
or a 60-second charged time-out and at 15 seconds of a 30-second
time-out, immediately after which the players shall prepare to be ready to resume
play, and signal again at the end of the intermission or time-out.

2-12-5: Sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of the 20
seconds (maximum) permitted for replacing a disqualified or injured player, or
for a player directed to leave the game.
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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 07:57pm
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What I am meaning is that we have not been directed to do a :15 horn before the game or 3rd quarter, only between the 1st/2nd & 3rd/4th quarters here.

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2-12-4: Sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of an
intermission
or a 60-second charged time-out and at 15 seconds of a 30-second
time-out, immediately after which the players shall prepare to be ready to resume
play, and signal again at the end of the intermission or time-out.

2-12-5: Sound a warning signal 15 seconds before the expiration of the 20
seconds (maximum) permitted for replacing a disqualified or injured player, or
for a player directed to leave the game.
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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 11:28pm
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What I am meaning is that we have not been directed to do a :15 horn before the game or 3rd quarter, only between the 1st/2nd & 3rd/4th quarters here.
Then your timers are doing it wrong and should all be fired.
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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 11:41pm
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IOW We were never told to do it at halftime or pregame. It has never been mentioned to the table crew by the officials nor has it been enforced at state playoffs.

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Then your timers are doing it wrong and should all be fired.
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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 11:45pm
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IOW We were never told to do it at halftime or pregame. It has never been mentioned to the table crew by the officials nor has it been enforced at state playoffs.
It's in the rule book though, and you supposedly follow the rule book to the letter, so you had better get with it and sound that horn at the :15 mark during halftime.
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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 11:46pm
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IOW We were never told to do it at halftime or pregame. It has never been mentioned to the table crew by the officials nor has it been enforced at state playoffs.
You have a rules book. Use it. Do it right at your games. Heck, it's even more important this year with the "major editorial change."
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What I am meaning is that we have not been directed to do a :15 horn before the game or 3rd quarter, only between the 1st/2nd & 3rd/4th quarters here.

What do you think halftime is? I'd say it is an intermission.

It appears you've read most of the rule book, but why not go to a camp and learn to referee and apply the rules.
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Right now my knee is wrecked thanks to last January.

As I stated before, the WIAA has not stated that a warning horn is to be sounded at :15 prior to end of pregame/halftime.

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What do you think halftime is? I'd say it is an intermission.

It appears you've read most of the rule book, but why not go to a camp and learn to referee and apply the rules.
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Old Sun Jan 09, 2011, 09:47am
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Right now my knee is wrecked thanks to last January.

As I stated before, the WIAA has not stated that a warning horn is to be sounded at :15 prior to end of pregame/halftime.
It doesn't apply to pre-game, only to intermissions.

They don't have to state it -- it's in the book. If they don't want you to use it, they have to state "don't sound the warning horn ..."

And, please place your comments below the post you are quoting, not above it.
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