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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 04:58pm
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Had this happen to me over the holiday's in a girls JV game:

Late in the second half with the visiting team getting beat pretty bad (35+ running clock in effect), a girl from said visiting team runs in and jumps for a rebound, but collides with her teammate and lands hard on her backside. She starts screaming and crying in pain. Home team gets the rebound, but before they continue up court, I blow the whistle to stop play because of the injury. But before I have a second to look up, visiting coach is running from the bench across the court in a panic. "Are you OK Sara????!!!!!" he say's. Girl slowly gets up, drys her tears and the whole gym claps for her as she is replaced with a sub.

We play the final five minutes, no problems, but then my partner asks me as we are walking to the locker room why I didn't give the visiting coach a T for coming onto the floor without beckoning him? Actually, at the time, I don't think it even crossed my mind to give the coach a T. But my reply to my partner was "game management" and "team was down by 35, why T him up and make it worse." My partner didn't really like the answer, stating our job is to enforce the rules of the game, all the rules, not just the ones we liked or felt managed the game to our liking.

I'm not the arguing type, but I told him, "well if you felt so strongly about what happened why didn't you call the T?" I don't think he liked that answer either

Anyway, my question is did I do the right thing? Looking at the rules book, I found 10-4 and the note it makes under art. 5. Anywhere else I should be looking in the book?

I still feel this was a good case of game management, but would like to hear other opinions on the matter.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 05:01pm
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I consider the coach beckoned. Good call (no call) on your part.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 05:12pm
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Smack your partner upside the head for suggesting a T in that situation

In a situation like that, the coach is always going to be beckoned in my game. No need to be looking for trouble like that.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 05:34pm
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A JV girls game, out of hand, a running clock. Why prolong the game with a tech
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 05:37pm
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 05:39pm
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A JV girls game, out of hand, a running clock. Why prolong the game with a tech
I don't think these things have anything to do with not calling a T in this situation...the coach was beckoned because we have a HS kid who is on the floor in pain, screaming and crying.

That coach was beckoned whether it's 35 points or 1 point...
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 05:49pm
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The coach is always considered beckoned when a player is injured. Period.
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Old Thu Jan 06, 2011, 06:40pm
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A JV girls game, out of hand, a running clock. Why prolong the game with a tech
Yep. Same holds in a varsity boys game tied with 2 seconds left. Or a middle school coed rec game with a 10 point lead. Or a Freshman boys game with a 5 point lead in the 1st quarter.

The "beckon" is automatic with injuries.

Let your partner call this T and back it up to the powers. He'll find himself working a lot of JV girls games, and might even find his middle school assignments increasing.
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I consider the coach beckoned.
As a former basketball coach, the parent of two former basketbal players, and a thirty year basketball official, I agree 100%.

Same thing with coaches that prevent, or help break up fights. They were also beckoned.
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Old Fri Jan 07, 2011, 10:40am
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Had this happen to me over the holiday's in a girls JV game:

Late in the second half with the visiting team getting beat pretty bad (35+ running clock in effect), a girl from said visiting team runs in and jumps for a rebound, but collides with her teammate and lands hard on her backside. She starts screaming and crying in pain. Home team gets the rebound, but before they continue up court, I blow the whistle to stop play because of the injury. But before I have a second to look up, visiting coach is running from the bench across the court in a panic. "Are you OK Sara????!!!!!" he say's. Girl slowly gets up, drys her tears and the whole gym claps for her as she is replaced with a sub.

We play the final five minutes, no problems, but then my partner asks me as we are walking to the locker room why I didn't give the visiting coach a T for coming onto the floor without beckoning him? Actually, at the time, I don't think it even crossed my mind to give the coach a T. But my reply to my partner was "game management" and "team was down by 35, why T him up and make it worse." My partner didn't really like the answer, stating our job is to enforce the rules of the game, all the rules, not just the ones we liked or felt managed the game to our liking.

I'm not the arguing type, but I told him, "well if you felt so strongly about what happened why didn't you call the T?" I don't think he liked that answer either

Anyway, my question is did I do the right thing? Looking at the rules book, I found 10-4 and the note it makes under art. 5. Anywhere else I should be looking in the book?

I still feel this was a good case of game management, but would like to hear other opinions on the matter.
I don't know if he is your reg partner or not, doesn't really matter, but I would forward him this thread so that maybe he could benefit from it. If he takes offence then you know that this is not a partner you would want to work with again.
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