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deecee Fri Dec 31, 2010 05:16pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 711271)
No free throws for simultaneous fouls? Right? What am I missing here? Too much nog?
Billy, I am saying you have free throws. except shoot them as you normally would with the lanes occupied.

if the other team was in teh bonus then the first set of ft's would be lane empty and the bonus fts would be with the lanes occupied on their side.

bob jenkins Fri Dec 31, 2010 07:26pm
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 711275)
Billy, I am saying you have free throws. except shoot them as you normally would with the lanes occupied.

if the other team was in teh bonus then the first set of ft's would be lane empty and the bonus fts would be with the lanes occupied on their side.
that's not the penalty for simultaneous fouls.

Welpe Fri Dec 31, 2010 07:40pm
Ok, I think we're getting our wires crossed. I was referring to the original play, not Billy's hypothetical.

Camron, I agree, that we would go to POI on a simultaneous foul. I had thought deecee was saying go to the arrow on a false double foul.

Billy, for your hypothetical those would be simultaneous fouls. Treat as double fouls and go to POI. Like a double foul, there are no shots for a simultaneous.

Adam Fri Dec 31, 2010 08:12pm
Someone help me out, how is this simultaneous? Shot and foul followed by a foul on the rebound. Obviously a false double.

Adam Fri Dec 31, 2010 08:17pm
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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 711275)
Billy, I am saying you have free throws. except shoot them as you normally would with the lanes occupied.

if the other team was in teh bonus then the first set of ft's would be lane empty and the bonus fts would be with the lanes occupied on their side.
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 711303)
that's not the penalty for simultaneous fouls.
Bob's right, if you deem this a simultaneous foul and use POI, you will not be shooting free throws. Go to the arrow if missed. B gets an endline throwin if made.

IOW, figure out which happened first and go false double if you can.

Adam Fri Dec 31, 2010 08:17pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 711202)
Trail sounds whistle and charges personal foul on B1 who fouls A1 in the act of shooting a three point field goal. Ball does not go in. While the ball is in flight, lead sounds the whistle and charges A2 with a rebounding push against B2. False double foul. Penalize in the order that they occurred. Three free throws for A1 with the lane cleared. A1 is successful on the last free throw. We are not in the bonus for either team. Team B inbounds the ball on the endline, which is the spot closest to the foul. Team B gets to run the endline.

Did we do this correctly?
Yes, you did it correctly.

deecee Fri Dec 31, 2010 08:42pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 711314)
Bob's right, if you deem this a simultaneous foul and use POI, you will not be shooting free throws. Go to the arrow if missed. B gets an endline throwin if made.

IOW, figure out which happened first and go false double if you can.
thats what i thought - for some reason i changed my mind mid discussion.

simultaneous fouls you go poi and no free throws.

BillyMac Fri Dec 31, 2010 08:45pm
I Gotta Stop Doing That ...
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 711313)
Someone help me out, how is this simultaneous? Shot and foul followed by a foul on the rebound. Obviously a false double.
Sorry Snaqwells. I swtiched it up a little, as a hypothetical, part way through the thread. Blame it on the nog.

Adam Fri Dec 31, 2010 09:01pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 711319)
Sorry Snaqwells. I swtiched it up a little, as a hypothetical, part way through the thread. Blame it on the nog.
Ah, I see it now. Did a lot of driving today, my brain is still seeing snow and slush.


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