False Double Foul ???
 

Trail sounds whistle and charges personal foul on B1 who fouls A1 in the act of shooting a three point field goal. Ball does not go in. While the ball is in flight, lead sounds the whistle and charges A2 with a rebounding push against B2. False double foul. Penalize in the order that they occurred. Three free throws for A1 with the lane cleared. A1 is successful on the last free throw. We are not in the bonus for either team. Team B inbounds the ball on the endline, which is the spot closest to the foul. Team B gets to run the endline.

Did we do this correctly?

I believe it should be a spot throw-in from the end line. The rest of it sounds good though.

Designated Spot ???
 

That was our biggest concern after we got together to discuss the play before reporting to the table. Maybe we blew it? Anybody got a citation?

After the game, we talked about how to handle this if both fouls occurred at exactly the same time? How do you penalize in the order that they occurred? Simultaneous fouls? No free throws? Go to the arrow? Seems harsh not to award three free throws? We both forgot about it after a few adult beverages.

in this stich why not go with poi which would be the arrow?

When do we ever go to the arrow after a common foul? This isn't a double foul.

4.19.9 Situation A. Sounds like you did it right.

Last free throw was good, which allows Team B the right to run the endline.

4-36-1

4.19.9 situation a ...
 

A1 leaps high and is fouled by B1 as he/she taps the ball
which subsequently goes through A’s basket. A1 fouls B2 in returning to the floor.
RULING: This is a false double foul. The foul by B1 does not cause the ball to
become dead. However, the player-control foul by A1 does cause the ball to
become dead and also dictates that no goal can be scored. Since the goal is not
scored, A1 is awarded two free throws for the foul by B1. No players are allowed
along the lane as Team B will be awarded the ball following the last free throw. If
the last throw is successful, the throw-in is from anywhere along the end line. If
the last throw is unsuccessful, the throw-in is from a designated spot nearest the
foul. (4-1; 4-11; 4-41-1; 6-7-7 Exception c: 6-7-4; 7-5-4a)

i know, just playing devils advocate.

On a simultaneous foul.

If they occurred at approximately the same time, even if not a double foul, we go with the POI.

Thanks camron that's what I was hinting at. The case play is wrong for this op. Correct procedure would have been ap arrow. If the basket scored correct procedure would be shoot the 1 shot with spaces occupied.

Simultaneous Foul ???
 

So in my hypothetical followup, we're not shooting three free throws? We're going to the arrow? Seems harsh, but correct.

In your situation the poi was the shot. So what happens next? Free throws with the lanes occupied of course.

Simultaneous Fouls ???
 

No free throws for simultaneous fouls? Right? What am I missing here? Too much nog?

Billy, I am saying you have free throws. except shoot them as you normally would with the lanes occupied.

if the other team was in teh bonus then the first set of ft's would be lane empty and the bonus fts would be with the lanes occupied on their side.

that's not the penalty for simultaneous fouls.

Ok, I think we're getting our wires crossed. I was referring to the original play, not Billy's hypothetical.

Camron, I agree, that we would go to POI on a simultaneous foul. I had thought deecee was saying go to the arrow on a false double foul.

Billy, for your hypothetical those would be simultaneous fouls. Treat as double fouls and go to POI. Like a double foul, there are no shots for a simultaneous.

Someone help me out, how is this simultaneous? Shot and foul followed by a foul on the rebound. Obviously a false double.

Bob's right, if you deem this a simultaneous foul and use POI, you will not be shooting free throws. Go to the arrow if missed. B gets an endline throwin if made.

IOW, figure out which happened first and go false double if you can.

Yes, you did it correctly.

thats what i thought - for some reason i changed my mind mid discussion.

simultaneous fouls you go poi and no free throws.

I Gotta Stop Doing That ...
 

Sorry Snaqwells. I swtiched it up a little, as a hypothetical, part way through the thread. Blame it on the nog.

Ah, I see it now. Did a lot of driving today, my brain is still seeing snow and slush.