ZM1283 -

The infraction IS the adding of the name. NOT entering the game. When the name IS ADDED to the book the infraction HAS OCCURED. Issue the T accordingly.

Looked at it.....thanks.

Okay, I stand corrected.

Do you guys agree that we should have had a CE after it was discovered that V12 was on the roster submitted before the game?

I will agree that before issuing the T you should have done some legwork and request the roster that the visiting team submitted and check if it were a score keeper error. That would have avoided the whole situation to begin with.

Other than that wipe out the points for the free throws as they were un-merited. I can also argue using common sense that this T can be rescinded as this T has reprucussions. The most noticeable is that it is an indirect on the coach.

You can never go wrong going with the book but I will find anyone who would disagree with the T being rescinded (except of course the opposing coach).

No. Under what element would you correct it? It's not an unmerited free throw. You assessed a T therefore it was merited. Your T was maybe unmeritted, but that's not a correctable error. Whether or not V12 was on the roster should have been determined before you issued the T.

Administrative T, team T, no indirect on the coach.

Are you sure about that? Technical fouls assessed under NFHS 10-1 are Team Technicals and not charged to the head coach directly or indirectly. (See also, p 70 of the 2010-11 rule book, Technical Foul Penalty summary.)

yes my brain fart.

So are these unmerited FTs or not? Can they be canceled?

They are and they can.

+1

MRegor is right; once the FTs are shot, the T cannot be rescinded.

Agree....almost. Technically, once the T is reported, it is too late. There is no mechanism for un-calling a foul that has been reported and recorded.

That said, I wouldn't criticize someone who did cancel the T in this case.

So the line of thinking here is since the T was reported, it cannot be corrected as it is not a correctable error. The free throws then are merited as the penalty for the T and therefore cannot be canceled?

If so, it makes sense to me.

Here in Texas, we take the official book to each coach and have them check it and sign it under their list of players. I find it an odd practice, but do it because everyone else does it. If I am told a player from the visiting team is not in the book, I will still ask for the supplied list before assessing a T. The signature really means nothing "officially".

We have some officials in our chapter that do that but I haven't noticed it universally being practiced around our parts. I haven't heard any formal instruction surrounding this either.