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RookieDude Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN (Post 710450)
Last week in a girls varsity game I got up to 9 seconds and was about to blow my whistle when the girl released.

8-1-4

The TRY for goal shall be made within 10 seconds after the ball has been placed at the disposal of the free thrower at the FT line.


4-41-3

The try starts when the player begins the motion which habitually precedes the RELEASE of the ball.

The above rules are what some of the officials may have been hinting toward.

Terrapins Fan Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by billymac (Post 710463)
hint: I've been playing, coaching, and officiating basketball for over forty years, including thirty years officiating, and this is the first time i've ever seen the violation called. That's a lot of basketball games without seeing this particular violation called.

+1

Andy Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:51pm

I have never called it...only seen it called once in a game I was working.

Small college game..A1 is fouled while shooting, first free throw, no problem.
He was given the ball for the second attempt, all he did was keep bouncing the ball and looking over to my partner at trail. It soon became apparent that this player had no intent of shooting the ball and was waiting for the 10 second call.

My partner obliged him and the game continued....

Terrapins Fan Tue Dec 28, 2010 04:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 710480)
I think the main reason officials are reluctant to call this is because there's no advantage gained by the shooter in delaying. The clock is stopped and the rebounders are already in position along the lane. Maybe shooters who take a long time to shoot are just using the time to picture their technique in their mind as some kind of mental tool to help themselves make a better shot. I think I've called it once or twice in my career and only because the time was excessive.

If your team is tired....

Camron Rust Tue Dec 28, 2010 05:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 710487)
8-1-4

The TRY for goal shall be made within 10 seconds after the ball has been placed at the disposal of the free thrower at the FT line.


4-41-3

The try starts when the player begins the motion which habitually precedes the RELEASE of the ball.

The above rules are what some of the officials may have been hinting toward.

The start of the try is irrelevant. The FT must be "made" (not started) by 10 seconds. If it is not released by 10 seconds, it is a violation (if you choose to call it).

BillyMac Tue Dec 28, 2010 05:29pm

9-1-3-a ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 710494)
The start of the try is irrelevant. The FT must be "made" (not started) by 10 seconds. If it is not released by 10 seconds, it is a violation (if you choose to call it).

After the ball is placed at the disposal of a free thrower:
a. He/she shall throw within 10 seconds to cause the ball to enter the basket
or touch the ring before the free throw ends.

rsl Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:29am

Called this once in a HS rec game. Ugly game, losers down by fifteen and playing with only three due two foul outs and an ejection. The winners are shooting a FT and clearly take more than 10 seconds.

I blow the violation and find out afterwards that shooter is mentally handicapped, and was playing for one of the few times all season because they were up by fifteen with a two man advantage.

The handicap was not visible, but I still felt pretty stupid ...

BktBallRef Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:43am

I have called this once, in a varsity game.

Just like Bob Delaney, I got to 13 seconds before I made the call.

I'm not worried about 10 or 11. But 13. TWEET!!!

Team A Coach yelled, "I told you someobdy was gonna call it on you!" :)

Indianaref Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:45pm

Saw this called in one of my very first games as an official. Thank God I learned from here that we should be very, very loose on this violation.

26 Year Gap Wed Dec 29, 2010 07:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 710645)
I have called this once, in a varsity game.

Just like Bob Delaney, I got to 13 seconds before I made the call.

I'm not worried about 10 or 11. But 13. TWEET!!!

Team A Coach yelled, "I told you someobdy was gonna call it on you!" :)

There was a kid who had an elaborate routine including passing the ball around his body a couple times that I was hoping would result in 10. He was a terrible FT shooter and a hothead who took some tea from time to time. More than a 10 count, I was hoping he'd fumble it away while he was showing off.


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