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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:24pm
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BJV game tonight. Score tied 48-48 with less than a minute to go. I called an intentional flagrant foul on #21 of the V. #4 of the H team misses the shots. They get the ball back and then they missed the last shot..... Game eventually went to double OT.

I tried Mark, really I did!
And you couldn't find disconcertion?
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:25pm
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my personal favorite, never actually spoken out loud, but i think it frequently. In response to any of the "5 against 7" "hometown officiating" "call it on both ends" line of comments, the following might be appropriate.

"if you already think i'm calling against your team, why in the world would you make a remark like that and piss me off?"
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:26pm
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Half? If he called me an idiot, he's in the parking lot.
"Does your car have a radio, coach? You can listen to the rest of the game out there."
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:31pm
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"Does your car have a radio, coach? You can listen to the rest of the game out there."
Yep, he called you idiots and called you cheaters. He's done. Although from the description, I'd like to think he'd have been dealt with (in some way) much sooner.
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:36pm
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had a play the other night where B1 fouls A1 while shooting. Tweet! foul on A1. A1 is upset and cannon balls the ball he is holding off the backboard and it flys to other end of court. TWEET! T on A1. As I am reporting to table - Coach from B teams gets my attention and deadpans: "Hey ref - isn't that like double jepardy or something? I think you've gotta choose one or the other." I must have looked at him funny because he started waved his hand at me and started cracking up. Next the table informs me it's hthe kids 5th foul and coach is already sending a sub up. I later learned that in his day job he's a lawyer.

I handled that one all by myself.
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:38pm
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had a play the other night where B1 fouls A1 while shooting. Tweet! foul on A1. A1 is upset and cannon balls the ball he is holding off the backboard and it flys to other end of court. TWEET! T on A1. As I am reporting to table - Coach from B teams gets my attention and deadpans: "Hey ref - isn't that like double jepardy or something? I think you've gotta choose one or the other." I must have looked at him funny because he started waved his hand at me and started cracking up. Next the table informs me it's hthe kids 5th foul and coach is already sending a sub up. I later learned that in his day job he's a lawyer.

I handled that one all by myself.
At least he wasn't going for the Daily Double. [insert BillyMac image here]
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:42pm
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Well, a couple of years ago, I had a coach Question my "integrity" . He said,

"Stop cheating my kids"


I said, "Coach, are you questioning my integrity?"

He said "Stop cheating my Kids!"

I said " Coach are YOU questioning MY integrity?"

He said, "All I am saying is stop CHEATING my kids"

Whack.

I do believe he was questioning my integrity.

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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:44pm
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I called an intentional flagrant foul on #21 of the V. #
You're going to tease us with that and not share what he did?
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:45pm
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Well, a couple of years ago, I had a coach Question my "integrity" . He said,

"Stop cheating my kids"

WHACK!
There. That looks much better.
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 10:50pm
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There. That looks much better.
+1. No brainer. He called you a cheater. If he's dumb enough to say it twice, he's in the parking lot with the idiot that called you an idiot.
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 11:33pm
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I called an intentional flagrant foul on #21 of the V.
Which sport has an intentional flagrant foul?
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Old Tue Dec 21, 2010, 11:37pm
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I called an intentional flagrant foul on #21 of the V.
For the record, there's no such thing. You can have a:

intentional personal foul
intentional technical foul
flagrant personal foul
flagrant technical foul

But there's no such thing as an intentional flagrant foul.
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But there's no such thing as an intentional flagrant foul.
Acknowledged. thanks.
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And you couldn't find disconcertion?
Actually, I did call that earlier in the night...... first time this yr.
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Forgive me for assuming some things here but...

Mark Padgett seems to be a fun loving, quick witted, smart a$$ official.

Nevadaref seems to be a "by the book", dry official, with no room for deviation.

Philosophically...somewhere between these two guys is where one might want to be as an official.

Now I realize that knowing the rule book does not make a good official,
but one cannot be a good official without knowing the rule book.

Having said that...as I get older and more experienced, I seem to want to be more of a smart a$$ to the coaches.

Just last night, I had a Coach complain about a "over and back" call that I made.

A1 had the ball in his frontcourt...A1 passed the ball to A2. B1 tipped the ball before it got to A2 and the ball bounced off of A2's knee and into the backcourt. A2 went to recover the ball. Tweet! Backcourt Violation!

Coach yelled, "How can that be...the defender deflected the ball!"
Partner explained the rule to him as we inbounded the ball.

Next time down the court, I get a foul on Coach A's big man. Coach A says... "How can that be a foul? You don't know what a foul is if that is one!"

Instead of whacking him, I simply go over and say, "Why should I listen to you? You didn't even know the backcourt rule."

His eyes bug out and he can't believe he has been talked to like that. He mentions something about being professional and goes on to say, "We are going to have a PROBLEM!"

I look at him, as the ball is being inbounded, and say, "How do you think that is going to work out for you?"

Two more times down the court and he quietly says to me, with a smile..."Hey, we need to get on the same page...we've been doing this a long time."

I said, "Coach, I forgot about it already."

Yeah, I shouldn't probably be saying these smart a$$ remarks...but, darn it...Padgett keeps giving me material here.

I think that most of your comments made to this coach were totally unprofessional. Most coaches in the country at all levels don't know that over and back rule/play that you had in your game. Being a smart a$$ usually has more cons than pros.
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