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Old Sat Dec 18, 2010, 01:56pm
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Ok, so follow up question to this one. How do I go about telling my partner who has been officiating for 20 years plus years but fails to grasp the little things like this, without offending him? I'm the youngest guy on the crew by years, but have worked my tail off and was the R on the crew.
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Ok, so follow up question to this one. How do I go about telling my partner who has been officiating for 20 years plus years but fails to grasp the little things like this, without offending him?
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 12:39am
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Ok, so follow up question to this one. How do I go about telling my partner who has been officiating for 20 years plus years but fails to grasp the little things like this, without offending him? I'm the youngest guy on the crew by years, but have worked my tail off and was the R on the crew.
Quite honestly, you can't worry whether it offends him or not. You're the R, you earned it, act like it. Tell him under no uncertain terms that he put the crew in a bad situation.
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Quite honestly, you can't worry whether it offends him or not. You're the R, you earned it, act like it. Tell him under no uncertain terms that he put the crew in a bad situation.
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 05:59pm
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This would fall under one of the "C's" in any pregame: Communicate. When a TO is granted,the official calling should also look to see where the ball is going to be put into play. Make eye contact with your partner and one of you (or two of you) should signal/point to where the ball will be put in play. When you inform the coach that the TO is Full/30 you can then point to where the ball will be put into play. Of course, in a 3 person crew someone should be standing at the spot, or near it if it is in one of the teams huddles.
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This would fall under one of the "C's" in any pregame: Communicate. When a TO is granted,the official calling should also look to see where the ball is going to be put into play. Make eye contact with your partner and one of you (or two of you) should signal/point to where the ball will be put in play. When you inform the coach that the TO is Full/30 you can then point to where the ball will be put into play. Of course, in a 3 person crew someone should be standing at the spot, or near it if it is in one of the teams huddles.
Also the procedure in 2 person crews. (Or maybe that's just IAABO)
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I'll take your word on it. The powers that be only let me work in 3 person crews. That way there are more people to keep me under control!
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I'll take your word on it. The powers that be only let me work in 3 person crews. That way there are more people to keep me under control!
They just changed it within the last couple of years to something that makes more sense. One official at the spot, the other standing at the division line.
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Ok, so follow up question to this one. How do I go about telling my partner who has been officiating for 20 years plus years but fails to grasp the little things like this, without offending him? I'm the youngest guy on the crew by years, but have worked my tail off and was the R on the crew.
How come no one communicated with the Lead as to where the ball would be coming into play?
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Old Sun Dec 19, 2010, 11:32pm
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How come no one communicated with the Lead as to where the ball would be coming into play?
He's have to be a pretty stupid Lead to not know the ball wasn't going to the endline since the ball wasn't in his primary or secondary.
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He's have to be a pretty stupid Lead to not know the ball wasn't going to the endline since the ball wasn't in his primary or secondary.
Obviously he didn't know where the ball was going since he gave the coach wrong information.

Doesnt' take much effort to communicate to BOTH officials, but that's just me.
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He's have to be a pretty stupid Lead to not know the ball wasn't going to the endline since the ball wasn't in his primary or secondary.
Which is exactly why I really enjoy working with a partner who always points to the throwin spot every single time he, or she, sounds the whistle for a violation, foul, or time out, that will be followed by a throwin.
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Obviously he didn't know where the ball was going since he gave the coach wrong information.
Okay then, we agree. He's stupid. If you don't know, ask. Don't make something up.


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Which is exactly why I really enjoy working with a partner who always points to the throwin spot every single time he, or she, sounds the whistle for a violation, foul, or time out, that will be followed by a throwin.
So do I. But I've got enough court awareness to know where the ball is. I have a pretty good idea that if I'm at L and the ball is nowhere near my area, then I'm not going to tell a coach it's on the endline.

If I don't know, I ASK. I certainly don't guess.
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