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Old Sat Dec 18, 2010, 04:08pm
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Originally Posted by bbcoach7 View Post
1) JR, nobody can tell where the C's eyes are! I suppose you can guess where he's looking by the direction of his head, but then you say things like, "never took his eyes off...," and you don't know that. Your argument is in part based on an assumption you can't prove. Eye balls can and do move side to side within their sockets! It's just as reasonable to speculate that the C just quickly scanned to his right and noticed that there was space between the 7 who just ran past him, then moved his eye balls back to the left, observed the activity and "TWEEET!" Because he was anticipating it. Because it really began 5 possessions earlier.

2) Finally JR, you make a big deal outa the L having to observe 7 players if the C is watching the ball. Correct mechanics for a 3 man crew aside, if this was a 2 man crew, wouldn't the L be watching 7 players? Isn't it something you've done a gazzilion times?

3) Then there's the stacked question. I seriously don't believe that a referee has to be 100% in line and stacked on an exact straight line in order to have his vision blocked. Just being close to on exact straight line may be enough to obscure a players arms even though most of the torso is visible, and the arms are what does the pushing.
Whatintheheck are you talking about?

1) The bottom line is that the C's eyes were on the initial contact. He made the foul call. Obviously he saw what was happening. What do I care about eyeballs? I try to go by exactly what happened. See the foul; call the foul. It's that simple. Coach, I'm honestly not sure what point you're trying to make here, but I do agree that the C certainly may have looked off the play first to check out possible contact from the other players as they were transitioning through his area before going back to the throw-in. But overall really, that's meaningless.

2) Now you really have me confused. Afaik I've haven't posted anything so far in this thread that had anything to do with the Lead or coverage of the other 7 players. I can't find anywhere where I've even referenced them. Can you point me to where you think I did that?

3) We agree.

Are you sure you aren't confusing me with Tomegun () and maybe a post of his like #42?

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