Say What?

GoodwillRef · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 12:55pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

So if a girl said the same thing to a guy, you would stop the game to nip it in the bud?

If you do not like the comments, just tell the kids to knock it off. You do not need to make a big production out of it.

Peace

I wasn't sure who said it...I knew the general area where it came from. We all know in the PC world we live in, like it or not, it is not the same when when the gender roles are reversed. I am sure that everyone in the student section will think twice about doing it again. We all handle situations different, there isn't one big band-aid for all situations.

JRutledge · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I wasn't sure who said it...I knew the general area where it came from. We all know in the PC world we live in, like it or not, it is not the same when when the gender roles are reversed. I am sure that everyone in the student section will think twice about doing it again. We all handle situations different, there isn't one big band-aid for all situations.

I am an egalitarian, so I do not care what the gender roles are if all that was said was it, I find that minor. If the player reacted then you might have an issue, but that did not happen. Do not go looking for something that is not there. People in the stands say a lot worse and we should take action in those cases. This sounds kind of minor and if nothing else was said. And student sections are a little rowdy anyway. I have had many experiences where I will talk to them directly because they will listen or the students around them will get a kick out of the fact the official said something to him. You could have made light of the situation and got it to stop instead of making it seem like someone needed to be thrown out.

Peace

GoodwillRef · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 01:07pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am an egalitarian, so I do not care what the gender roles are if all that was said was it, I find that minor. If the player reacted then you might have an issue, but that did not happen. Do not go looking for something that is not there. People in the stands say a lot worse and we should take action in those cases. This sounds kind of minor and if nothing else was said. And student sections are a little rowdy anyway. I have had many experiences where I will talk to them directly because they will listen or the students around them will get a kick out of the fact the official said something to him. You could have made light of the situation and got it to stop instead of making it seem like someone needed to be thrown out.

Peace

It is different when the gym isn't full, it wasn't in this case, and you can make out all the language than when the gym is full and it just blends in.

JRutledge · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 01:12pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

It is different when the gym isn't full, it wasn't in this case, and you can make out all the language than when the gym is full and it just blends in.

Again, you could have waited for a dead ball and went to an adult with the school and got the same thing accomplished. I would have just gone to the AD, principal or administrator and simply tell them the student section is getting a little rowdy and I am sure they would have taken care of it. But to stop the game or to make a big deal out of that specific comment is just silly when you will hear worse.

Peace

GoodwillRef · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Again, you could have waited for a dead ball and went to an adult with the school and got the same thing accomplished. I would have just gone to the AD, principal or administrator and simply tell them the student section is getting a little rowdy and I am sure they would have taken care of it. But to stop the game or to make a big deal out of that specific comment is just silly when you will hear worse.

Peace

It was a dead ball...and it took a whole thirty seconds. I respect your opinion but I will have to disagree with you on this one.

Jurassic Referee · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 01:35pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

It was a dead ball...and it took a whole thirty seconds. I respect your opinion but I will have to disagree with you on this one.

And I have to disagree with your's. That's as OOO as it gets imo. That might be just about the last thing I'd worry about while officiating any game. There's minnows and whales. That's plankton.

JMO.

Jurassic Referee · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 03:18pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am an egalitarian......

I'm an Anglican.

Just saying.....

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 09:27pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I'm an Anglican.

Just saying.....

I am an Italian,

.

MTD, Sr.

Jurassic Referee · #9 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 18, 2010, 07:17am

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I am an Italian,

And they haven't found a cure for that yet.....

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. · #10 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 18, 2010, 08:25am

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And they haven't found a cure for that yet.....

Hey, don't forget, I know where you live, in fact I know where everybody lives.

MTD, Sr.

Rich · #11 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 18, 2010, 12:44pm

I worked a game Tuesday where an assistant coach came up to me and showed me his iPod Touch and said, "this isn't a phone." Confused, I said, "OK?" and he told me an official saw him with it before their previous game and made a huge deal out of it and told him that if he saw him with it during the game, he'd remove him from the bench.

I laughed. I reassured him I wouldn't even be looking in his direction if he was sitting on the bench.

Last night we had an announcer who announced fouls before we reported them. It annoyed me a bit at first, but in the end I wanted to see if he got them all right. He did, with the exception of a foul called by a partner that not only confused him, but the 2 of us also working the game.

BillyMac · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 06:09pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am an egalitarian.

Not me. I enjoy eating a little meat. I don't eat a lot of red meat, but I have chicken, or turkey, almost every night for dinner.

ODJ · #13 (**permalink**) Sat Dec 18, 2010, 12:52am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am an egalitarian,

Peace

Regards to Bruno, your lovely valet, who types your missives.

26 Year Gap · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 01:40pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I wasn't sure who said it...I knew the general area where it came from. We all know in the PC world we live in, like it or not, it is not the same when when the gender roles are reversed. I am sure that everyone in the student section will think twice about doing it again. We all handle situations different, there isn't one big band-aid for all situations.

That ain't your job.

BktBallRef · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Dec 17, 2010, 03:49pm

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Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

We all handle situations different, there isn't one big band-aid for all situations.

No band-aid is needed. This maybe the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of an official doing with regards to a fan.

It's not threatening, profane, vulgar, insulting, racist, sexist, humiliating....the list could go on and on. There is absolutely no reason in the world to even acknowledge that such a simple and innocent comment.

As for the black eye, most fans already have a poor opinion of officials. Everyone who heard the comment or knew what was going on left the building and told everyone they could about the jerk wearing the stripes. There was absolutely no reason whatsoever for you to do anything in that situation.