Official Attacked

[APG]

Originally Posted by chseagle

A better idea, lifetime ban from athletics (no college playing, no chance of going pro) He's more suited to be picking up garbage along the freeway.

I might go for a ban at the high school level. A ban at the college and professional level (no matter how small those chances may be) is both unrealistic and excessive punishment.

[RobbyinTN]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I might go for a ban at the high school level. A ban at the college and professional level (no matter how small those chances may be) is both unrealistic and excessive punishment.

I would hope that no college would even consider bringing him into their program - I would hope he would be shunned by the college basketball world.

OTOH, I believe in forgiveness and second chances so maybe if he gets into some kind of anger management program and proves that he is rehabilitated, I might reconsider

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

To me, "suspend" vs. "forfeit" is semantics. Either way, the league/state can decide to continue the game. Either way, the league/state can decide to let it stand as is.

We are actually told every year that as game officials we can not "forfeit" a game and should never use that term. We can only "suspend" a game and the VHSL will decide what to do after that. Semnatics? Could be, but it is clarified for us on a yearly basis.

I would like to bring out the point that I thought this official did a good job getting the first foul, prior to the kerfluffle. Great job not ball watching and staying in his area.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Judtech

We are actually told every year that as game officials we can not "forfeit" a game and should never use that term. We can only "suspend" a game and the VHSL will decide what to do after that.

By NFHS rule, of course, this is not true. The referee is given explicit authority to forfeit a game if circumstances warrant it. State athletic associations may modify that, but for any newbies reading this thread, you do have the authority to forfeit the game, by rule.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Texas Aggie

In this situation, you should SUSPEND the game and let the powers that be decide on a forfeit. A suspension is 100% reasonable -- for many reasons -- but a forfeit can be second guessed. I'm not saying you run away from tough situations, but when there's an easy, reasonable solution that accomplishes the same thing, do it.

I'd be more inclined to go this route if I or my partner(s) decided not to continue with the game.

[Adam]

Or he could go play for Tim Floyd.

[chseagle]

Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.

[Toadman15241]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.

The last I saw he was kicked off the team, is facing expulsion from school, and is going to be meeting a judge soon.

[Terrance "TJ"]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.

The video description says that he's off the team, banned from any other extra-cirricular activties and is suspended until Jan. 10th. At the time the video was posted the official had declined to press any charges, but the state might if they wanted to I'm guessing.

[Terrapins Fan]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Has there been any media follow-ups to this incident?

In the video it did show the player being "escorted" by a LEO.

Fox News had a story on it this morning.

I used to work at a psychiatric institute. I was assaulted by a patient once. We had special training for such situations ( called non aggressive restraint technique ) Amazing how that training kicks in. he hit me 3 times before I could get control of him, but once I did, he couldn't do anything ( Half Nelson restraint ).

Now, point to that story here is, some of us have training, if we defended ourselves without hurting the player, what happens to us? Basic rule is we don't touch players or coaches. But defending yourself is a different story, you can't be a punching bag.

The best thing again, is it was on film. I rarely do a game that is not filmed.

Also, did this happen in the 1st quarter or the 4th? That may have some thing to do with deciding if the game was going to continue.

The size, age and experience of the official might have something to do with continuing the game. I wouldn't be flustered by the experience, but then again, at 6'2", 230 pounds there are not a lot of players who are going to put me to the floor.

[Terrapins Fan]

At the 23 second mark in the video, you can see that the score is 21-26 Visitors are winning and the fouls are 9 to 10. 2:30 left on the clock. I can't see the quarter, but I would say before 1/2 time.

[JugglingReferee]

Hey Mark:

Game forfeited never go to overtime!

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan

At the 23 second mark in the video, you can see that the score is 21-26 Visitors are winning and the fouls are 9 to 10. 2:30 left on the clock. I can't see the quarter, but I would say before 1/2 time.

Correct. Before the clock faded out, I could see the "2" where the current quarter is typically located.

Plus, it's definitely the first half since both sets of the foul shots were away from that team's bench. (That is, assuming that the officials didn't permit the team to go in the wrong direction for 13½+ minutes. LMAO )

[jTheUmp]

Just saw this covered on Sportscenter.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Welpe

What I'm wondering is if you all would consider ending the game at this point as this crew did?

If assaulting a game official is not making "a travesty of the game", which is the grounds for forfeit, then I don't know what would be.

Game over, 100 times out of 100.