Illegal Equipment Question

[PIAA REF]

I can find caseplay or rule references about Jewlry and not tucking shirt in and making a player have to leave the game for a tick of the clock. What about these: Bobypin, illegal headband, wristband ect.

Do you make them leave the game if not noticed or do you just let them rectify the situation quickly and play? If you have a rule to reference please let me know, thanks.

Play situation: A1 is at free-throw line ready to attempt free-throws. Ref at this time sees that the shooter has bobypins, or an illegal wristband. Ref clears lane, allows shooter to shoot and then has player replaced for having illegal equipment. Was ref correct?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

I can find caseplay or rule references about Jewlry and not tucking shirt in and making a player have to leave the game for a tick of the clock. What about these: Bobypin, illegal headband, wristband ect.

Do you make them leave the game if not noticed or do you just let them rectify the situation quickly and play? If you have a rule to reference please let me know, thanks.

Play situation: A1 is at free-throw line ready to attempt free-throws. Ref at this time sees that the shooter has bobypins, or an illegal wristband. Ref clears lane, allows shooter to shoot and then has player replaced for having illegal equipment. Was ref correct?

If she can fix it quickly, she does so before the free throws. If she can't, her sub shoots or the coach uses a TO to buy her time.

I can't imagine any way that makes the solution he used the correct one. Out of curiosity, how did he resume play after the FTs?

[PG_Ref]

See the case plays for 3.5

[PIAA REF]

He used the same as when you have to replace a player for not tucking in their shirt. You clear lane, player shoots. Opposing gets ball out if made can run baseline, if not can't run. THe player has to shoot the free-throws unless it is an injury. Same thing with jewlry. If a player has a earring in and it isn't noticed until they are shooting free-throws, you clear lane, shoot free-throws then replace player. I am leaning toward that you should do this for ANY illegal equipment.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

He used the same as when you have to replace a player for not tucking in their shirt. You clear lane, player shoots. Opposing gets ball out if made can run baseline, if not can't run. THe player has to shoot the free-throws unless it is an injury. Same thing with jewlry. If a player has a earring in and it isn't noticed until they are shooting free-throws, you clear lane, shoot free-throws then replace player. I am leaning toward that you should do this for ANY illegal equipment.

Ah, 3.3.5A. Interesting. I suppose it would be true also for jewelry or illegal wrist bands, but I'm not sure. There's really no rule backing for the resolution here (nor does it go against a rule), so I'd be slow to apply it anywhere except exactly where they tell you to do so.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

He used the same as when you have to replace a player for not tucking in their shirt. You clear lane, player shoots. Opposing gets ball out if made can run baseline, if not can't run. THe player has to shoot the free-throws unless it is an injury. Same thing with jewlry. If a player has a earring in and it isn't noticed until they are shooting free-throws, you clear lane, shoot free-throws then replace player. I am leaning toward that you should do this for ANY illegal equipment.

Quit leaning. You're wrong. And you're also on the way to becoming an OOO of the highest magnitude.

In one of those case plays, the player deliberately untucked their shirt. Big difference.

Might be a very good idea for you to check with your local rules interpreter before deciding on how you're gonna handle the play. You may just find out that you're the only person in your time zone doing it that way. Not conducive to advancement up the food chain.

[BillyMac]

*3.3.5 SITUATION A: B1 fouls A1. Just before A1 goes to the line for a oneand-
one, the official observes: (a) A1 pull the shirt out of his/her pants; or (b) A1’s
pants being worn below the hips. RULING: In both (a) and (b), A1 will be directed
to put the shirt in the pants or pull up the pants, and must leave the game
immediately following his/her last free throw(s). The lane is cleared for the free
throw and Team B is awarded the ball for a throw-in, whether or not the last free
throw is successful. COMMENT: A charged time-out by Team A does not alter the
requirement for A1 to leave the game.

*3.3.5 SITUATION B: A1 is directed to leave the game because his/her jersey
is not tucked into the game pants. The official notifies the Team A coach that a
replacement is required. The official then instructs the timer to begin the 20-second
replacement interval because a substitute is not made available immediately.
Team A’s head coach then requests a time-out to keep A1 in the game. RULING:
Team A’s time-out request may only be granted after A1 is replaced by a substitute.
A time-out is not permitted to keep a player in the game who has been
directed to leave for not wearing his/her uniform properly. Once A1 is replaced by
a substitute, Team A may request and be granted a time-out, if desired. (2-12-5;
3-3-5; 5-8-3b)

[PIAA REF]

Jurassic,

In PA for all situations the player must leave for a tick of the clock, as for the shirt untucked this would be a case of a player previously being warned or being a jerk about it.

Not sure what your post was getting at, did u wake up on the wrong side of the bed again?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If she can fix it quickly, she does so before the free throws. If she can't, her sub shoots or the coach uses a TO to buy her time.

To clarify, a coach cannot use a timeout to keep a player in the game who has been directed to leave for a uniform/equipment violation.

As for the FT situation where the shooter has his jersey untucked, I don't care how it became untucked. If I ask him to put it in and he doesn't, we're shooting with no one in the lane and then he's going out. If the issue was that he intentionally pulled it out, then part (b) of the case play wouldn't be necessary.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

To clarify, a coach cannot use a timeout to keep a player in the game who has been directed to leave for a uniform/equipment violation.

As for the FT situation where the shooter has his jersey untucked, I don't care how it became untucked. If I ask him to put it in and he doesn't, we're shooting with no one in the lane and then he's going out. If the issue was that he intentionally pulled it out, then part (b) of the case play wouldn't be necessary.

Thanks, I have to confess that case play was something I hadn't known about. It's not something I worry about here. Not because we don't enforce it; quite the opposite. It's enforced so universally at the high school level that we just don't see problems.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

If a player has a earring in and it isn't noticed until they are shooting free-throws, you clear lane, shoot free-throws then replace player. I am leaning toward that you should do this for ANY illegal equipment.

Your exact words are above, PIAA REF. If you want to lean towards sending a player out of the game for illegal wristbands, headbands, earrings, etc. without first giving that player a chance to quickly remove it, lean away.

I just don't agree with doing that. It has never been the purpose and intent of that particular rule to my knowledge.