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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 10:38am
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Another Backcourt Question, in bounds play!

A1 throwing ball in, A2 jumps from front court in the air towards backcourt, but before landing(which would not be a violation), passes the ball to A3, who is in back court already!

Why is this a violation, when A2 could of went ahead and landed and been fine? Looked in 9-9-3 but doesn't mention the pass to A3, maybe in the case book, don't have it with me.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 10:40am
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A1 throwing ball in, A2 jumps from front court in the air towards backcourt, but before landing(which would not be a violation), passes the ball to A3, who is in back court already!

Why is this a violation, when A2 could of went ahead and landed and been fine? Looked in 9-9-3 but doesn't mention the pass to A3, maybe in the case book, don't have it with me.
The throw-in exception applies only to the first player to touch. When A2 caught the ball the throw-in ended, so now all normal rules apply with regard to the backcourt violation.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 10:46am
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Just thought no team control on throw in, backcourt or front court had not been established, so was just trying to figure out why it would be a violation and couldn't find anything to support it.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 10:48am
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Just thought no team control on throw in, backcourt or front court had not been established, so was just trying to figure out why it would be a violation and couldn't find anything to support it.
In order for A2 to pass the ball, he had to catch it first. At the point, player/team control was established.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 10:53am
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So because he caught it, and he left from frontcourt, frontcourt was established? then he threw it into backcourt for a violation? I understand it, but don't know why they would make it that way, when they are going to allow A2 to come down in backcourt anyways, just don't seem right to have it both ways on a throw in!

So you can come from front court and land in backcourt and be legal, but if you pass to back court in air it's illegal, that just doesn't seem right to me. They changed one to make it legal years back, they should of changed the other one too, in my opinion.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 11:00am
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So because he caught it, and he left from frontcourt, frontcourt was established? then he threw it into backcourt for a violation? I understand it, but don't know why they would make it that way, when they are going to allow A2 to come down in backcourt anyways, just don't seem right to have it both ways on a throw in!

So you can come from front court and land in backcourt and be legal, but if you pass to back court in air it's illegal, that just doesn't seem right to me. They changed one to make it legal years back, they should of changed the other one too, in my opinion.
The exceptions only apply to the first person to touch the ball. That's (generally) because the offense (in this case) can't directly control from where the ball is inbounded. Once the offense catches the ball, they have options as to what to do, so they are responsible for choosing the incorrect option.

The same ruling would apply if the defense intercepted a pass and threw the ball to another defender in the BC.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 10:52am
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Just thought no team control on throw in, backcourt or front court had not been established, so was just trying to figure out why it would be a violation and couldn't find anything to support it.
9.9.1E is this exact play.
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Old Thu Dec 02, 2010, 10:50am
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the throw-in exception applies only to the first player to touch. When a2 caught the ball the throw-in ended, so now all normal rules apply with regard to the backcourt violation.
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