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[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

One example where the IAABO patch is used;
In my area, almost all tournaments and leagues including, AAU, off season high school, and travel leagues use as part of their advertising that 'only IAABO certified refs' will work their games. Obviously, this is not saying that the games will have the best refs in the world but it does say that at a minimum the refs have been certified to know the rules and they are not just grabbing a guy who bought a striped shirt at Sports Authority to ref the games.

I think this may also help with pay for the non high school games. If they use non IAABO refs, teams could go elsewhere to play because there are loads of tournaments to pick from during AAU season.

The IAABO patch is used in MASS because IAABO is recognized as the state governing rules body in that state. No more, no less. low "IAABO Certfied Refs" in MASS is exactly the same as state patched refs elsewhere. Every state has something similar, not just the few states where IAABO is recognized as the states governing authority. It's similar to say,Illinois where the state governing body decides who works what post-season games.

And iirc, the MASS high school group also still holds power over IAABO in all true governance issues also, as in dictating coverage of post-game hand shakes, wearing mouthguards, etc. Right, Scrappy?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The IAABO patch is used in MASS because IAABO is recognized as the state governing rules body in that state. No more, no less. low "IAABO Certfied Refs" in MASS is exactly the same as state patched refs elsewhere. Every state has something similar, not just the few states where IAABO is recognized as the states governing authority. It's similar to say,Illinois where the state governing body decides who works what post-season games.

And iirc, the MASS high school group also still holds power over IAABO in all true governance issues also, as in dictating coverage of post-game hand shakes, wearing mouthguards, etc. Right, Scrappy?

CO is the same way, in that state certification is done through IAABO, but CHSAA is still the "governing body." This is my 5th season in CO, and I've already seen them deviate from both NFHS and IAABO in the same year on mechanics (table-side stuff, mostly).

[JohnDorian37]

I'm new to the scene--I get the sense that there is some animosity between IAABO and everyone else. Any truth to this?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JohnDorian37

I'm new to the scene--I get the sense that there is some animosity between IAABO and everyone else. Any truth to this?

Not that I'm aware of. IAABO is a good organization and also does a good job for it's members imo. What it isn't is a rules-making body. It can interpret NFHS rules within it's jurisdiction(where it has jurisdiction) but all final rulings come from the NFHS rulesmakers.

You were just being given some info to answer your questions about possible membership. It can't hurt; it can certainly help....but in my personal opinion, if you're going to spend time trying to improve your rules knowledge, you're better off simply visiting this web site on a regular basis. This web site has a veritable plethora...plethora, I tell ya...of very rules-knowledgable people(some of whom may also be IAABO members) very willing to answer any questions that might come up. It's a better source of knowledge and info than say, Referee Magazine imo.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

This web site has a veritable plethora of very rules knowledgeable people, some of whom may also be IAABO members, very willing to answer any questions that might come up.

Thanks for the compliment. How did you know I was IAABO?

[Multiple Sports]

I have been an IAABO interpreter for the last 10 years and been to several

IAABO conventions. I feel as though I can learn more from any DI camp than what they teach us regarding rules at the convention.

Every year I watch a bunch of old guys from New England pat each other on the back and tell war stories at the hospitality room.

Quite frankly the biggest benefit I see is that IAABO keps other chapters from bidding on our boards contracts.

Curious as to how some of the IAABO members feel.

My board has a lot of guys asking why do I pay $35 every year, if I am already registered in our state



Billy Mac - do you think that you are were you are today becayse of IAABO

of because of the time and effort that you put personally put into your game ??????

Just food for thought !!!!!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Billy Mac: Do you think that you are were you are today because of IAABO, or because of the time and effort that you put personally put into your game?

Both, but mostly because of IAABO. My two interpreters, over the past thirty years, both IAABO trained, have done outstanding jobs teaching me. Our board officers, and assigners, over the years, "bleed IAABO blood", and hold us to the highest standards, and a past IAABO executive director was a member of our local board many years ago. Could this happen without the umbrella organization, IAABO? Probably, but I wouldn't bet my house on it. The number one goal of IAABO is education, and that's what it takes, among other things, to be a great official.

[BayStateRef]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The IAABO patch is used in MASS because IAABO is recognized as the state governing rules body in that state. No more, no less. low "IAABO Certfied Refs" in MASS is exactly the same as state patched refs elsewhere. Every state has something similar, not just the few states where IAABO is recognized as the states governing authority. It's similar to say,Illinois where the state governing body decides who works what post-season games.

And iirc, the MASS high school group also still holds power over IAABO in all true governance issues also, as in dictating coverage of post-game hand shakes, wearing mouthguards, etc. Right, Scrappy?

Never been called Scrappy...but JR has it only partly right.

IAABO is not the only ref association in Mass. It is the dominant one, but there are other independent associations which are recognized by the MIAA (the high school athletic assn.) and which have fully qualified officials. The high school group that holds the power is the MIAA....not IAABO. The handshake, mouthguards and other rules come from the MIAA.

There is a statewide Mass. board of officials, which on paper has power to enforce rules for all IAABO boards. But IAABO is not an assignor. And IAABO is not the MIAA. Independent assignors...some of whom are IAABO members and some who are not...decide who works high school games. I know assignors (both IAABO and non-IAABO) who use IAABO officials and non-IAABO officials. They care only that they find the best available official for the game.

For post-season assignments, the MIAA hires the assignors. Some are IAABO and some are not.

I belong to an IAABO board because it was the best choice for training, etc. when I started out. Any ref. association can be recognized by the MIAA (and I know at least one new one that has been in recent years) if it meets whatever standards the MIAA sets. IAABO is a good organization, but it does not have an exclusive hold on high school basketball in Mass. And it definitely is not the high school governing authority.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BayStateRef

Never been called Scrappy...but JR has it only partly right.

Now JR has it right.

Thanks.