Game(s) rescheduled due to weather

[stiffler3492]

I can only speak for my area, but we don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I can only speak for my area, but we don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

That's how it is here. I'm pretty sure it works differently with individually contracted officials (Rich would know), though.

[DesMoines]

Same here in Central Iowa. If we're free on the rescheduled night we get it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's how it is here. I'm pretty sure it works differently with individually contracted officials (Rich would know), though.

We get first crack at the reschedule. The commissioners (assignors) do the original assigning for conference games, but typically the home AD is responsible for any game that gets rescheduled. It's not unusual that the call we get letting us know the game is postponed also lets us know the makeup date so we can either take it right away or let the AD know we're busy.

Many makeups here are done on "off" nights where there are fewer games, such as Mondays or Thursdays. The schools are usually playing already on the busy nights, although there are exceptions and some schools will reschedule without even considering that it will be tough to find officials to work their games. If a school reschedules my game on a Friday, for example, I don't even need to look at my calendar -- I'm already working. Any contracted game (to me) takes precedence, but I only schedule varsity games. Officials that take both varsity and sub-varsity will frequently take the varsity and then find a sub for the sub-varsity. Schools understand this and are OK with it as long as you find a warm body for the freshman/JV game you are giving back.

Unlike association areas, the AD is on the hook and cannot call an assignor who will step up and help. Our associations maintain lists of officials who (self) claim availability, but that's about it. Frequently those lists are dated, although I try to keep mine up as best as I can.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

I can only speak for my area, but we don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

+1

I lost 18 games last yr due to snow.

Assignors were going crazy to get all the games in. With that many schedule adjustments we all just got what we could.......

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

We don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

Same here in my little corner of Connecticut. The Arbiter takes care of it. Also, it's frowned upon to do more than one varsity game (late afternoon, night) in one day, although on the "reschedule day" it's been known to happen when the schedule is overbooked. We have 70 schools, almost 140 varsity programs, and only 130 varsity officials. Throw in a few injuries, an illness or two, and some blocked out days, or schools, and we have problems on these "reschedule days".

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Same here in my little corner of Connecticut. The Arbiter takes care of it. Also, it's frowned upon to do more than one varsity game (late afternoon, night) in one day, although on the "reschedule day" it's been known to happen when the schedule is overbooked. We have 70 schools, almost 140 varsity programs, and only 130 varsity officials. Throw in a few injuries, an illness or two, and some blocked out days, or schools, and we have problems on these "reschedule days".

I'd work 2 games every Saturday if I could find enough afternoon games.

"Frowned upon"? See, that's what I don't get. If officials are independent contractors, how can they be restricted from working more than one game? It's what I never understood about systems where there's only one assignor (who's blessed by the state) and it's "his way or the highway" -- isn't that restricting the trade of an independent contractor?

I worked in such a system in the 90s. You'd go to an association meeting and they'd tell you that as a varsity official, you weren't allowed to work anything but varsity games and then they'd hand you a schedule with only 1-2 dates per week. I much prefer my current system -- if I want to work 2 dates a week, it's up to me. If I want to work 6 dates a week, I can.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

"Frowned upon"? See, that's what I don't get. If officials are independent contractors, how can they be restricted from working more than one game?

Sorry, wrong choice of words. It's in our local board's constitution, a constitution that is voted on by our membership whenever someone suggests a change, which is often. So far, nobody has ever suggested a change in this part of our constitution, although we have allowed our assigner to rarely double up with an official when absolutely needed, as described above. We believe that it's important to put an official with "fresh legs" in a varsity game whenever possible. This rule doesn't involve subvarsity games, where double assignments are fairly common.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We believe that it's important to put an official with "fresh legs" in a varsity game whenever possible.

I find this reasoning laughable. When I wear a pedometer working as a member of a 3 person crew, I have never had a game that has reached 8/10s of a mile. Any referee who is not "fresh" after a single 3 p.c. game needs to put in some time getting into better physical condition.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

I find this reasoning laughable. When I wear a pedometer working as a member of a 3 person crew, I have never had a game that has reached 8/10s of a mile. Any referee who is not "fresh" after a single 3 p.c. game needs to put in some time getting into better physical condition.

You need a new pedometer or you need to work a game with a team that is running an offense more than the 4-corners.

Plus, pedometers are horrible for measuring referee distances. The stride length is so irregular, it can't be accurate. Pedometers are far better for runners/walkers where the stride length is generally consistent.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You need a new pedometer or you need to work a game with a team that is running an offense more than the 4-corners.

Plus, pedometers are horrible for measuring referee distances. The stride length is so irregular, it can't be accurate. Pedometers are far better for runners/walkers where the stride length is generally consistent.

OK, assume my pedometer is off. What distance do you stipulate is the average when working 3 p.c.? Is your given average distance an amount of physical work that would leave any "reasonably" fit referee unable to work a second game?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

I find this reasoning laughable. When I wear a pedometer working as a member of a 3 person crew, I have never had a game that has reached 8/10s of a mile. Any referee who is not "fresh" after a single 3 p.c. game needs to put in some time getting into better physical condition.

This is Connecticut, the "Land of Steady Habits", and the "Land of the Two Person Game". Almost all of our assignments are two person. Some exceptions are some charity holiday tournament games, a few games involving some big city rivalries, and some state tournament games, from the quarterfinals up.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

I find this reasoning laughable. When I wear a pedometer working as a member of a 3 person crew, I have never had a game that has reached 8/10s of a mile.

I did the pedometer thing a few times last year. Two person games. Boys varsity games. Averaged about three miles per game.

[chseagle]

Just found out that the Jamboree where I was working crowd control is now cancelled due to our crazy winter weather up here.

The first actual game for both the boys & girls (December 4th) got rescheduled due to the football team playing in the 1A WIAA/Dairy Farmers of Washington Gridiron Classic championship game. So the 1st game for all squads is going to be on December 7tth.

Thankfully looking at how the rescheduling was done, there's a possibility that the officials assigned to the game will still get a chance to work.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Richmond

They'd tell you that as a varsity official, you weren't allowed to work anything but varsity games and then they'd hand you a schedule with only 1-2 dates per week.

True. On our local board, sometimes it's better to be a top rated "split" official, working both varsity and subvarsity, games, than it is being a low rated "full" varsity official. Often the split official gets a much busier schedule, although with fewer varsity assignments.