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chseagle Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:23pm

Game(s) rescheduled due to weather
 
What normally happens when a game you're assigned to get rescheduled due to weather?

What happens if the game that gets rescheduled to a day where you are assigned another game is playing at the same time?

Mark Padgett Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:27pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 703875)
What happens if the game that gets rescheduled to a day where you are assigned another game is playing at the same time?

Since I have multiple personalities, I work both games at the same time.

stiffler3492 Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:27pm

I can only speak for my area, but we don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

chseagle Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:37pm

I feel sorry for those where your bad/evil personality is officiating LMAO

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 703876)
Since I have multiple personalities, I work both games at the same time.


just another ref Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:43pm

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 703875)
What normally happens when a game you're assigned to get rescheduled due to weather?

The timer and the bookkeeper usually play one on one.

If necessary, they come to the game by dogsled.

Adam Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:46pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 703877)
I can only speak for my area, but we don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

That's how it is here. I'm pretty sure it works differently with individually contracted officials (Rich would know), though.

DesMoines Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:27am

Same here in Central Iowa. If we're free on the rescheduled night we get it.

chseagle Tue Nov 30, 2010 04:52am

LMAO, How'd you know that's how they conduct the census in remote parts of Alaska?

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 703881)
The timer and the bookkeeper usually play one on one.

If necessary, they come to the game by dogsled.


grunewar Tue Nov 30, 2010 05:12am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 703877)
I can only speak for my area, but we don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

+1

I lost 18 games last yr due to snow.

Assignors were going crazy to get all the games in. With that many schedule adjustments we all just got what we could.......

Raymond Tue Nov 30, 2010 07:07am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 703875)
What normally happens when a game you're assigned to get rescheduled due to weather?

What happens if the game that gets rescheduled to a day where you are assigned another game is playing at the same time?

High school: We get the game back. If already assigned a game on the reschedule date we get to choose the one we want to work.

College: Supervisor says we don't own the game but try to give us the game back.

Rich Tue Nov 30, 2010 07:16am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 703882)
That's how it is here. I'm pretty sure it works differently with individually contracted officials (Rich would know), though.

We get first crack at the reschedule. The commissioners (assignors) do the original assigning for conference games, but typically the home AD is responsible for any game that gets rescheduled. It's not unusual that the call we get letting us know the game is postponed also lets us know the makeup date so we can either take it right away or let the AD know we're busy.

Many makeups here are done on "off" nights where there are fewer games, such as Mondays or Thursdays. The schools are usually playing already on the busy nights, although there are exceptions and some schools will reschedule without even considering that it will be tough to find officials to work their games. If a school reschedules my game on a Friday, for example, I don't even need to look at my calendar -- I'm already working. Any contracted game (to me) takes precedence, but I only schedule varsity games. Officials that take both varsity and sub-varsity will frequently take the varsity and then find a sub for the sub-varsity. Schools understand this and are OK with it as long as you find a warm body for the freshman/JV game you are giving back.

Unlike association areas, the AD is on the hook and cannot call an assignor who will step up and help. Our associations maintain lists of officials who (self) claim availability, but that's about it. Frequently those lists are dated, although I try to keep mine up as best as I can.

BillyMac Tue Nov 30, 2010 07:19am

Snow Days ...
 
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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 703877)
We don't necessarily "own" our games. If the game is rescheduled, the assignor may check and see if we're free. It might be the case that when the game is rescheduled, we're already working that night and can't take it.

Same here in my little corner of Connecticut. The Arbiter takes care of it. Also, it's frowned upon to do more than one varsity game (late afternoon, night) in one day, although on the "reschedule day" it's been known to happen when the schedule is overbooked. We have 70 schools, almost 140 varsity programs, and only 130 varsity officials. Throw in a few injuries, an illness or two, and some blocked out days, or schools, and we have problems on these "reschedule days".

Rich Tue Nov 30, 2010 07:29am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 703898)
Same here in my little corner of Connecticut. The Arbiter takes care of it. Also, it's frowned upon to do more than one varsity game (late afternoon, night) in one day, although on the "reschedule day" it's been known to happen when the schedule is overbooked. We have 70 schools, almost 140 varsity programs, and only 130 varsity officials. Throw in a few injuries, an illness or two, and some blocked out days, or schools, and we have problems on these "reschedule days".

I'd work 2 games every Saturday if I could find enough afternoon games.

"Frowned upon"? See, that's what I don't get. If officials are independent contractors, how can they be restricted from working more than one game? It's what I never understood about systems where there's only one assignor (who's blessed by the state) and it's "his way or the highway" -- isn't that restricting the trade of an independent contractor?

I worked in such a system in the 90s. You'd go to an association meeting and they'd tell you that as a varsity official, you weren't allowed to work anything but varsity games and then they'd hand you a schedule with only 1-2 dates per week. I much prefer my current system -- if I want to work 2 dates a week, it's up to me. If I want to work 6 dates a week, I can.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Nov 30, 2010 07:40am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 703876)
Since I have multiple personalities, I work both games at the same time.


And Skippy Weasel Pants can work the third game that was scheduled that night. :D

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac Tue Nov 30, 2010 07:40am

After All, We Are The Consitution State ...
 
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 703899)
"Frowned upon"? See, that's what I don't get. If officials are independent contractors, how can they be restricted from working more than one game?

Sorry, wrong choice of words. It's in our local board's constitution, a constitution that is voted on by our membership whenever someone suggests a change, which is often. So far, nobody has ever suggested a change in this part of our constitution, although we have allowed our assigner to rarely double up with an official when absolutely needed, as described above. We believe that it's important to put an official with "fresh legs" in a varsity game whenever possible. This rule doesn't involve subvarsity games, where double assignments are fairly common.


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