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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 11:22pm
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 11:26pm
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Options: Personal, intentional, or flagrant; based on normal factors.
If you think it was inentional or overly physical, you go with intentional.
If you think it was flagrant (like he was trying to loosen some teeth), go flagrant.
If not, you can go with personal.

This assumes that you've already determined it was a foul; no-call is an option depending on the circumstance.
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Old Wed Nov 24, 2010, 02:08am
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Options: Personal, intentional, or flagrant; based on normal factors.
You must mean common foul. Personal fouls are just live ball contact fouls which can be intentional or flagrant.

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Old Wed Nov 24, 2010, 07:17am
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You must mean common foul. Personal fouls are just live ball contact fouls which can be intentional or flagrant.
Naw, Snaqs meant personal foul. A personal foul can also be a common foul by rule.

NFHS rule 4-19-2- "A common foul is a personal foul..."

To be completely accurate, the options if you do call a foul are player-control foul, intentional personal foul and flagrant personal foul.

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Old Wed Nov 24, 2010, 12:47pm
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Naw, Snaqs meant personal foul. A personal foul can also be a common foul by rule.

NFHS rule 4-19-2- "A common foul is a personal foul..."

To be completely accurate, the options if you do call a foul are player-control foul, intentional personal foul and flagrant personal foul.
The definition for intentional and flagrant starts out basically the same way. A personal foul is just a foul which involves illegal contact while the ball is live. That personal foul can be intentional or flagrant. If it isn't intentional nor flagrant, nor against a player who is shooting, nor a double, multiple, or simultaneous foul (I think that is all of them) then it is a common foul. A player control foul is a type of common foul.
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Old Wed Nov 24, 2010, 01:14pm
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Options: Personal, intentional, or flagrant; based on normal factors.
If you think it was inentional or overly physical, you go with intentional.
If you think it was flagrant (like he was trying to loosen some teeth), go flagrant.
If not, you can go with personal.

This assumes that you've already determined it was a foul; no-call is an option depending on the circumstance.
Under what circumstance would a no-call be an option?
Not challenging, just wondering.
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Old Wed Nov 24, 2010, 01:21pm
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Under what circumstance would a no-call be an option?
Not challenging, just wondering.
A1 has the ball and pivots. B1 gets bumped slightly with the elbow at the end of the pivot, which is moving with A1's hips in his pivot. Neither player disadvantaged by the contact.
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Old Wed Nov 24, 2010, 06:08pm
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A1 has the ball and pivots. B1 gets bumped slightly with the elbow at the end of the pivot, which is moving with A1's hips in his pivot. Neither player disadvantaged by the contact.
Or B1 is leaning over top of A1 who is bent over after getting the rebound, A1 pivots and straightens up, knocking B1 in the teeth with his elbow. Assuming A1's pivot equaled the speed of his elbows, could be a no-call.
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