2-man: who's watching for BI and GT?

[rfp]

I've heard different opinions on this, interested in the consensus. In a 2-man game, who's responsible for watching for BI and GT? One school of thought says that it's the trail's all the way with the lead focused on the players under the basket. The other school of thought says that both trail AND lead should be watching for BI and GT since you've got a better chance to get it right.

So, in 2-man, when a shot is released, where is the lead looking?

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by rfp

I've heard different opinions on this, interested in the consensus. In a 2-man game, who's responsible for watching for BI and GT? One school of thought says that it's the trail's all the way with the lead focused on the players under the basket. The other school of thought says that both trail AND lead should be watching for BI and GT since you've got a better chance to get it right.

So, in 2-man, when a shot is released, where is the lead looking?

When I am at lead I focus my attention below the rim. If someone end up on the floor below the BASKET I want to know how they got there.

[jTheUmp]

Worked a scrimmage on Saturday... there were a couple of seasoned vets and clinicians from our association there to give pointers to us (relatively speaking) newbies.

I had two separate clinicians call me out for looking at the shot as the lead official.

In the words of one clinician: "As the lead, you should never see the shot go in. Let the player's reactions tell you if there was a goal or not."

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

Worked a scrimmage on Saturday... there were a couple of seasoned vets and clinicians from our association there to give pointers to us (relatively speaking) newbies.

I had two separate clinicians call me out for looking at the shot as the lead official.

In the words of one clinician: "As the lead, you should never see the shot go in. Let the player's reactions tell you if there was a goal or not."

There are no absolutes imo. If you're the L on a quick break and your partner(s) are hung up in the backcourt, you'd damnwell better be ready imo to call the quick flicks'n'touches...especially the way that the kids are playing above the rim nowadays.

Half-court offenses..no. Let the outside guy get it.

Don't take anything for granted out there. Guaranteed it'll come back and bite your azz if you do so.

JMO.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

There are no absolutes imo. If you're the L on a quick break and your partner(s) are hung up in the backcourt, you'd damnwell better be ready imo to call the quick flicks'n'touches...especially the way that the kids are playing above the rim nowadays.

Half-court offenses..no. Let the outside guy get it.

Don't take anything for granted out there. Guaranteed it'll come back and bite your azz if you do so.

JMO.

Agree. This is they way it should be done.

[Kelvin green]

Remember that trail has the perimeter and weak side rebounds. Trail has the best look as the ball goes up and is near the rim.

Lead (unless as mentioned on fast transition) just does not have the angle for the play. trail has the best view to see if ball will be short, if it is the cylinder or not, etc, Lead just has a crappy angle to see that stuff.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

There are no absolutes.

Oh yeah. How about this one: "Throwing the ball and hitting the backboard of the team in possession is always considered
a try for goal. "

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Oh yeah. How about this one: "Throwing the ball and hitting the backboard of the team in possession is always considered
a try for goal. "

Even JR would admit there's the possibility of it not being a try; but the odds of an official making that call and not becoming "that guy" are slim.

[Twinfan]

According to the FIBA manual for 2-man mechnics (FWIW), it's Trail all the way.
@rfp - on the shot, lead is looking for the battle underneath for rebounding position.