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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 01:40pm
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Last night (NFHS):

A23 fouls out. R reports the foul, and is notified of the 5th personal. B20 is at the line to shoot 1-and-1.
R notifies the player and A-HC. R goes to the table to start the 20-sec. clock, and U1 administers the free throw to A20. Free throw is made, but A has not replaced its player yet.

What do you do?
Blow your whistle, get the sub in, shoot the second free throw, talk to your partner after the game.
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 01:42pm
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Caveat #1: If he misses the first free throw? (Remember it's 1-and-1)
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 02:11pm
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Caveat #1: If he misses the first free throw? (Remember it's 1-and-1)
Blow your whistle, get the sub in, talk to your partner after the game.
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Old Wed Nov 24, 2010, 11:34pm
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Blow your whistle, get the sub in, talk to your partner after the game.
To clarify, if the shot is missed, should you hold your whistle for a second or two until a team has control? That way, you wouldn't need the arrow.
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 01:42pm
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We should do what the title of this thread says.

I say we count the FT, allow the sub & continue. Its not a CE.
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 04:14pm
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Blow your whistle, get the sub in, shoot the second free throw, talk to your partner after the game.
Note that the NCAA (at elast NCAAW) ruling is different -- cancel the FT, put the sub in, FT do-over.
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 04:33pm
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Note that the NCAA (at elast NCAAW) ruling is different -- cancel the FT, put the sub in, FT do-over.
Let me check that out.

Is that based on the wording from A.R. 80 or is there an interp out there somewhere?

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(2) Since A5 and A5’s coach were not notified of the disqualification, the result of A5’s free throws (following the free throws awarded to Team B for the technical foul on A5) shall stand.
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2010, 05:05pm
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Caveat #1: If he misses the first free throw? (Remember it's 1-and-1)
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Blow your whistle, get the sub in, talk to your partner after the game.
If the whistle is before a rebound use AP since POI has no team control. If whistle is late and there has been a rebound go POI, ball out to team with control.

Is this correct?
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Old Thu Nov 25, 2010, 07:36am
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If the whistle is before a rebound use AP since POI has no team control. If whistle is late and there has been a rebound go POI, ball out to team with control.

Is this correct?
To add an additional question to Scratch's question....

If going to POI once there's TC is the correct procedure, would/should we wait on the whistle if Team B had a fast break going off the miss?
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Old Thu Nov 25, 2010, 07:51am
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It's our screw-up and we need to fix it. And we also don't need to compound our screw-up by penalizing a team by making them play with 4 players. As soon as you're aware that we didn't allow a proper substitution, blow your whistle and get the sub on the floor. You then have rules to determine what you have to do when you resume play. Use 'em.
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