Tough Spot in 2-Man

[jritchie]

Haven't called a 2-man game in 3 years, wouldn't know how to revert back to 2-man if I had too! They need to just go ahead and make it mandatory for all states, would make life so much easier for us officials!

[Danvrapp]

I've pregamed this before (even in 3-person...which this shouldn't have to happen) but if it goes to the non-calling official and s/he doesn't know, just make a confident call that keeps the ball in the front court. I hate to go to the arrow in this sitch.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Danvrapp

I've pregamed this before (even in 3-person...which this shouldn't have to happen) but if it goes to the non-calling official and s/he doesn't know, just make a confident call that keeps the ball in the front court. I hate to go to the arrow in this sitch.

So, make up something as opposed to doing the right thing?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tref

so, make up something as opposed to doing the right thing?

+1

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Danvrapp

I've pregamed this before (even in 3-person...which this shouldn't have to happen) but if it goes to the non-calling official and s/he doesn't know, just make a confident call that keeps the ball in the front court. I hate to go to the arrow in this sitch.

Terrible advice. You're ignoring written rules and making up your own just to make yourself look better. You'll get dinged by an evaluator a heckuva lot harder for maybe screwing up an OOB call badly and giving one team an unfair advantage rather than just admitting you missed it and go with the arrow. You might get lucky some of the time but you won't get lucky all of the time.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Danvrapp

I've pregamed this before (even in 3-person...which this shouldn't have to happen) but if it goes to the non-calling official and s/he doesn't know, just make a confident call that keeps the ball in the front court. I hate to go to the arrow in this sitch.

I would rather pause a second and read the players to see if they give it away (which they frequently do). I'm sureashell am not going to guess, though.

[tref]

Oh s%!# he gave me 2 shot outs in 1 day, hell must have froze over! j/k

Honestly JR, you slapping me around over the years has inspired me to "know" my rules better & you saying what I wont accomplish provides motivation to get better. I know we may go back & forth, but I do listen to the knowledge that you drop on me... even though it has been quite harsh at times.
Thank you for all that you do!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tref

Oh s%!# he gave me 2 shot outs in 1 day, hell must have froze over! j/k

Honestly JR, you slapping me around over the years has inspired me to "know" my rules better & you saying what I wont accomplish provides motivation to get better. I know we may go back & forth, but I do listen to the knowledge that you drop on me... even though it has been quite harsh at times.
Thank you for all that you do!

Tref, I had a mentor...and a very dear friend.... who was one tough motorcycle cop when I first met him. He got me into officiating football and basketball just before I turned 16 years old. He pushed me like you wouldn't believe. Anything that I've ever said to you was fairly minor compared to some of the things that he said to me. He had some very basic ideas on what was needed to be taught if I wanted to become better. One was that if I screwed up without a good reason, I was making not only him but our crew and maybe even our association look bad. We were always a crew and we had to officiate every game that way. He also stressed knowing the rules. He said you couldn't hope to apply them correctly if you didn't what you were supposed to be applying in the first place. Every game that I worked with him was exam night. Another thing that he stressed was that if I couldn't take it from him, how could I expect to be able to hold my temper and stay calm, cool, collected and in charge when all hell breaks loose in a game(which it inevitably does).

He was the best football official that I've ever worked with and was also in my top 10 when it came to basketball. He died a year ago and he is missed, and not only by me.

Hopefully when I go all JR on someone, I'm doing it from an officiating standpoint and not a personal standpoint. I honestly am trying to do it that way. I do get carried away sometimes but I also do care.

Thanks for the kind words. We now return to regular programming.