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Old Mon Nov 22, 2010, 01:01pm
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Experimental for some early season games. NCAA even has a bulletin posted b/c of a certain mechanic that's allowed when the arc is used.
If you're referring to the "pointing to the ground" mechanic, that is used in all NCAA games, not just where the arc is actually painted on the ground. It's in the NCAA Commissioners' Manual.
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Old Mon Nov 22, 2010, 01:09pm
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Tennessee has the arc, and I don't think they're hosting a tourney or playing on an NBA court.

It's a new, experimental rule in the NCAA.
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No worries Scrapper, I was simply wrong.

Thanks for the correction folks, I looked but had not seen anything on it. Didn't look hard enough I guess.

The games I saw were at MSG, so I made an assumption there. My apologies and thank you for being gentle.
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Old Mon Nov 22, 2010, 04:57pm
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Tennessee has the arc, and I don't think they're hosting a tourney or playing on an NBA court.

It's a new, experimental rule in the NCAA.
Tennessee hosted a regional in the Preseason NIT, which is one of the tournaments using the arc. It is quite a bit smaller than the NBA arc that is used on their floors.

This is not an NCAA-wide rule for the whole season, just for the tournaments.
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Is it the rule that's experimental, or the prop (arc)?
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Is it the rule that's experimental, or the prop (arc)?
The visual aid on the court is the experimental part. Restricted area is in its second year as a rule.
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Is it the rule that's experimental, or the prop (arc)?
Arc.

The rule has been in place since last year.
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Is it the rule that's experimental, or the prop (arc)?
the arc. It defines "directly under the basket" (or whatever the specific rule wording is)
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the arc. It defines "directly under the basket" (or whatever the specific rule wording is)
That's what I thought.
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the arc. It defines "directly under the basket" (or whatever the specific rule wording is)
The interesting thing is that arc doesn't actually outline what the rules define as "directly under the basket". In the rules, the "restricted area" is an 18"x24" rectangle. It's not an arc at all. So if they decide to go ahead and mark the floor (which I hope they do), they either have to change the marking or change the rulebook. My guess is they'll do the latter.

And this exact point was made by BITS 4 days ago. Sigh. Guess I should read the whole thread before responding.
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Old Mon Nov 22, 2010, 03:53pm
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If you're referring to the "pointing to the ground" mechanic, that is used in all NCAA games, not just where the arc is actually painted on the ground. It's in the NCAA Commissioners' Manual.
No, b/c that's in the CCA manual and on the test. There wouldn't be a need for a special bulletin to point that out.

There is a bulletin out specifically for experimental games in which the 'C' is allowed to come in and give information to the Lead as to whether or not the secondary defender was inside the arc.

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2. OFFICIATING MECHANICS.
The mechanic listed below shall be used during games employing the 2-foot restricted area arc:
Should the Lead official signal a player control foul while a secondary defender is clearly standing on or inside the restricted area, it is permissible for the Center official only, if he has definite knowledge of the location of the secondary defender at the time of the contact, to approach the Lead official and share that information in an attempt to make the correct call.
REMINDER: THIS MECHANIC ONLY APPLIES TO RESTRICTED AREA PLAYS IN GAMES USING THE EXPERIMENTAL 2-FOOT ARC AND IS NOT TO BE USED DURING REGULAR SEASON GAMES.
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Old Mon Nov 22, 2010, 04:26pm
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There is a bulletin out specifically for experimental games in which the 'C' is allowed to come in and give information to the Lead as to whether or not the secondary defender was inside the arc.
Got it. Interestingly (or not), I was on the Arbiter site today and tried to load the bulletin, but for some reason the PDF wouldn't load into my Chrome browser.
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Got it. Interestingly (or not), I was on the Arbiter site today and tried to load the bulletin, but for some reason the PDF wouldn't load into my Chrome browser.
And oh yeah, I forgot to put smileys in my response, so here they are belatedly.



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Interesting that they would choose to mark the area with an arc when the rules define the area as a rectangle.
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