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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 11:31am
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10 second count girls high school?

Why in college is there not a 10 second count for girls. But in the National Federation there is for girls basketball?
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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 11:37am
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Why in college is there not a 10 second count for girls. But in the National Federation there is for girls basketball?
Because the folks that run the NCAAW don't think there's a need for it; but the folks writing the rules for the NFHS think there is a need.

It's that simple.

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Why are Illinois troopers called "Illinois State Police" while in Colorado their called "Colorado State Patrol" and in Montana it's "Montana Highway Patrol?"
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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 11:40am
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In college, they use a shot clock. In high school, most states (to my knowledge) don't use a shot clock and therefore have a 10 second backcourt count. In states where the girls do use a shot clock, there isn't a 10 second backcourt count.
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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 11:41am
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In college, they use a shot clock. In high school, most states (to my knowledge) don't use a shot clock and therefore have a 10 second backcourt count. In states where the girls do use a shot clock, there isn't a 10 second backcourt count.
Is this true for all states with a shot clock? Is it true only on the girls' side?
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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 12:03pm
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I don't know if they use a shot clock or 10 second count in college girls basketball. However, I know in college WOMEN'S basketball there is a 30 second shot clock, no ten second back court count and no 5 second closely guarded count while a player is dribbling.
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The research I did found seven states that have a shot clock for high school girls' basketball: Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York, North Dakota, California, Maryland, and Oregon. (The last two don't have a shot clock for the boys.)

The mentality of NCAA women's basketball is that if there's a 30-second shot clock, there doesn't need to be a ten-second limit on the ball in the backcourt. My question for officials in those aformentioned states, do you have a ten-second rule for the backcourt?
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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 12:19pm
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You're missing at least one state that has shot clock for girls (they also have it for boys).

Also, I believe New York uses NCAAW rules for their girls basketball programs.
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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 12:24pm
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In California, we have 30 sec. shot clock for girls. No 10 second back court. 5 second closely guarded while not dribbling anywhere on the court. So, just like NCAAW in that respect.

Boys have 35 sec shot clock 10 second back court and 5 seconds closely guarded dribble or no only in front court.
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Old Fri Nov 19, 2010, 06:44pm
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WIAA: Men have 35 sec. shot clock with 10 sec. backcourt. Women have a 30 sec. shot clock with no BC count.

I'm still curious as to why men have a longer shot clock than Women.

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In college, they use a shot clock. In high school, most states (to my knowledge) don't use a shot clock and therefore have a 10 second backcourt count. In states where the girls do use a shot clock, there isn't a 10 second backcourt count.
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Is this true for all states with a shot clock? Is it true only on the girls' side?
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WIAA: Men have 35 sec. shot clock with 10 sec. backcourt. Women have a 30 sec. shot clock with no BC count.

I'm still curious as to why men have a longer shot clock than Women.
So am I; also curious why it only affects the girls' rules when it comes to the 10 second backcourt count.
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I'm still curious as to why men have a longer shot clock than Women.
Let the record show that the kinder, gentler JR used an unbelievable amount of forbearance in avoiding responding to the above.

To the point where I mighta strained myself doing so.
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Let the record show that the kinder, gentler JR used an unbelievable amount of forbearance in avoiding responding to the above.

To the point where I mighta strained myself doing so.
This should help!!!!
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You need to stop switching between being a brachiosaurus & a T. Rex. Don't need you in the hospital due to a brain aneurysm from indecisiveness.

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Let the record show that the kinder, gentler JR used an unbelievable amount of forbearance in avoiding responding to the above.

To the point where I mighta strained myself doing so.
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Old Sun Nov 21, 2010, 02:47pm
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NYS Boys use NHS Rules. Girls use NCAAW rules with some modifications: notably on a technical foul the ball is awarded at half court opposite the table just like boys to the shooting team not point of interuption like NCAA women's. Why? I do not know. NYS girls 30 second shot clock, no 10 sec count, 5 sec holding the ball and closely guarded within 3 feet. Also use women's NCAA Mechanics fore girls HS.
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Agreed. We need to regulate and have the same count across the board, otherwise girls won't be prepared as fully when they go to the bigger leagues.
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