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JRutledge Wed Nov 17, 2010 09:30am

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 701514)
Heck, one of those officials used to post here for a while. Maybe he'll come back just to discuss the play!! :D

That was the official I was referring to. Heeeheee!!!

Peace

Scrapper1 Wed Nov 17, 2010 09:45am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 701517)
That was the official I was referring to. Heeeheee!!!

I met him briefly at camp one summer. Seemed like a great guy.

Jurassic Referee Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:05am

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Originally Posted by Judtech (Post 701239)
Intersting play at the end of the SIU/Northeastern game.
With about 3 seconds left to SIU players come up with a rebound. The L official blows his whistle and signals TO SIU. One problem, SIU does not have a TO. Video shows no SIU player making a TO signal. The officials huddle and tell the SIU coach that they heard "someone" from SIU call TO. Technical on SIU, N'eastern hits one.
Thoughts?

I think...no, I know...that the recap and the boxscore both show that Mamadou Seck of SIU got charged with the "T".

Whereinthehell is the problem? :confused: Very obviously the official knew which player to charge with the "T".

Allen free throw gives Northeastern 63-62 OT win - College Basketball - Rivals.com

chartrusepengui Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:20am

Perhaps I missed something in reading posts - but while some might think the official lied :confused: could it not be true that a player did request a TO - then realize they didn't have any left and then say they never requested a TO?

Nah, that would never happen either!

Judtech Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:32am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee (Post 701532)
I think...no, I know...that the recap and the boxscore both show that Mamadou Seck of SIU got charged with the "T".

Whereinthehell is the problem? :confused: Very obviously the official knew which player to charge with the "T".

Allen free throw gives Northeastern 63-62 OT win - College Basketball - Rivals.com

I was going with the quote from the officials at the time of the play.

comical Thu Nov 18, 2010 08:03am

Based on the Northeastern-SIU game, a Sporting News writer thinks the NCAA should use the FIBA rule for calling timeouts. Here's part of the column, followed by the link.


"What occurred in Carbondale appeared to be a lousy application of an abominable rule.

This result ought to push the NCAA rules committee toward adopting FIBA rules on timeouts, which are much more reasonable, lead to a more attractive game and also avoid making scapegoats out of players like Webber and whomever allegedly was at fault for SIU."



NCAA should change its timeout rule - NCAA Basketball - Sporting News

Raymond Thu Nov 18, 2010 03:42pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 701251)
Just finished watching that. Interesting situation. Looking at the replay, the official grants a timeout request, then points to the player who apparently requested it.

There looked to be no visual request for a timeout. The official told the table that "He heard someone from SIU yell timeout"

The announcers thought it might have been #2 for SIU, who was standing next to the official who eventually granted the TO. He started to make a visual request, but I thought that came after the official had granted the TO.

Something about the officials' explanation doesn't sit well with me.

What explanation? Was there a press release verifying official told the table this?

stiffler3492 Thu Nov 18, 2010 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 701787)
What explanation? Was there a press release verifying official told the table this?

The announcers got that from the scorer's table.

An excessive timeout technical is an administrative technical foul, charged to the team. Why did they put the player in the box score as having been charged a technical?

Raymond Thu Nov 18, 2010 03:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 701517)
That was the official I was referring to. Heeeheee!!!

Peace

And I know you voted this year :)

pizanno Thu Nov 18, 2010 04:28pm

If the timeout wasn't granted, looked like a travel to me.

interested point about changing the timeout rule to the FIBA rule. Would certainly make officials life easier.

Spence Thu Nov 18, 2010 05:14pm

YouTube - NU vs SIU - Nov 16th, 2010

If someone already posted this video I didn't see it.

AHSAA_Ref Thu Nov 18, 2010 05:22pm

#2 signaled T.O. It's clear as day. My bet is he said it, too.

JRutledge Thu Nov 18, 2010 05:28pm

Two players called for a timeout.

Peace

pizanno Thu Nov 18, 2010 05:55pm

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Originally Posted by AHSAA_Ref (Post 701836)
#2 signaled T.O. It's clear as day. My bet is he said it, too.


I'll lay my wager (ahem) on #0. Think about it. If you've ever been in a similar end-of-game situation, you should be focused on the ball, as the lead was here. He's looking straight at #0 (and his teammate) and does not hesitate one iota. If #2 calls timeout, i would expect the lead to at least look in his direction.

AHSAA_Ref Thu Nov 18, 2010 05:57pm

Perhaps they both called it. But #2 signaled with his hands. No doubt.


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