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APG Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:34am

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Originally Posted by CLH (Post 699288)
In the NBA this would be an away-from-the-play foul. 2 shots to any of the 5 offensive players in the game, ball on the side to Team A

Almost...it would be one free throw instead of two unless the foul was a flagrant foul.

Like JR has suggested, get direction from an evaluator or assigner if you are not sure. Nothing like getting guidance straight from the horse's mouth.

so cal lurker Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:36am

NBA rule is not equivalent -- only one free throw
Section X--Away-From-The-Play Foul
a. During the last two minutes of the fourth period or overtime period(s) with the offensive team in possession of the ball, all personal fouls which are assessed against the defensive team prior to the ball being released on a throw-in and/or away-from-the-play, shall be administered as follows:
(1) A personal foul and team foul shall be assessed and one free throw attempt shall be awarded. The free throw may be attempted by any play-er in the game at the time the personal foul was committed.
(2) If the foul occurs when the ball is inbounds, the offended team shall be awarded the ball at the nearest point where play was interrupted but no nearer to the baseline than the free throw line extended.
(3) If the foul occurs prior to the release on a throw-in, the offended team shall be awarded the ball at the original throw-in spot, with all privileges, if any, remaining.
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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 699310)
Yes!! I knew I had that one right.

Wait. "Absolutely, JR"? Where's my props???


Ref_in_Alberta Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:37am

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 699264)
A5 has the ball for a throw-in, up 66-64 with 9 seconds remaining.
B1 bear hugs A1 prior to the throw-in ending. How do you handle that?

FIBA rules.

Unsportsmanlike Foul. 2 FT + Poss at the division line. Rule is similar to the NBA rule.

mbyron Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:39am

NBA rules: no such thing.

FIBA rules: who cares?
:D

tref Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:55am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 699318)
Like JR has suggested, get direction from an evaluator or assigner if you are not sure. Nothing like getting guidance straight from the horse's mouth.

Im quite sure what the book says to do at every level of play. The word "shall" means do it, the word "may" means we have options.

I thought Mr. Adams wanted the game to be called as the rules were written?
How could an assignor say anything different? If rule support doesnt back up that decision in an assignors eyes, perhaps that is not the right league for me. Guess I'll worry about it when/if it comes up in the real world.

Adam Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:58am

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 699330)
Im quite sure what the book says to do at every level of play. The word "shall" means do it, the word "may" means we have options.

I thought Mr. Adams wanted the game to be called as the rules were written?
How could an assignor say anything different? If rule support doesnt back up that decision in an assignors eyes, perhaps that is not the right league for me. Guess I'll worry about it when/if it comes up in the real world.

My $.02:
College players know how to foul in end of game situations. If they don't, they'll get this call every time.

I have never taken any grief for making this call. In my experience, you get far more grief for close-to-the-line calls you pass on than for the ones you get.

Ref_in_Alberta Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:01pm

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 699323)
NBA rules: no such thing.

FIBA rules: who cares?:D

Those who officiate the game using FIBA rules, obvisously... :rolleyes:
Hehehe...

tref Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:32pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 699331)
I have never taken any grief for making this call.

Snaqs, you havent made that call in a mens wreck league then... :D

CLH Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:40pm

[QUOTE=AllPurposeGamer;699318]Almost...it would be one free throw instead of two unless the foul was a flagrant foul.QUOTE]

doesn't it make you mad when you have something in your head and your hands dont do what you tell them! lol

Adam Tue Nov 02, 2010 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 699338)
Snaqs, you havent made that call in a mens wreck league then... :D

Haven't worked one of those in a while; I don't remember.

Back In The Saddle Tue Nov 02, 2010 01:14pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 699338)
Snaqs, you havent made that call in a mens wreck league then... :D

Note that he says he has not "taken" any grief for making this call. That's a very different matter than them not trying to "give" him grief. Of course, in men's wreck ball they try to give you grief for every call. And no call. It's almost like giving grief is actually the game, and the basketball part is just something to do between whines. ;)

Jurassic Referee Tue Nov 02, 2010 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1 (Post 699310)
Wait. "Absolutely, JR"? Where's my props???

He probably over-looked you.

Jurassic Referee Tue Nov 02, 2010 02:19pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 699298)
For the record, this was a mens wreck game & my guy was working on the court next to me. I didn't ask his opinion on this play, he kinda brought it to me.

Follow the same procedure that you use at a camp when someone gives you instructions that you know are wrong. Listen intently, nod your head in agreement and then ignore the advice when he's out of sight. That saves your friendship and also lets you do what you know is right.

JMO.


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