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Old Thu Oct 28, 2010, 08:13am
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So it is better described as;

The team in control has caused the ball to go into its frontcourt whenever:
• The ball, not in control of any player, touches the frontcourt,
• The ball touches or is legally touched by an offensive player who has both feet in contact with his frontcourt,
• The ball touches or is legally touched by a defensive player who has part of his body in contact with his backcourt,
• The ball touches an official who has part of his body in contact with the frontcourt of the team in control of the ball.
• During a dribble from the backcourt to the frontcourt, both feet of the dribbler and the ball are in contact with the frontcourt.

plus the other criteria mentioned.
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Old Thu Oct 28, 2010, 08:46am
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So it is better described as;

The team in control has caused the ball to go into its frontcourt whenever:
• The ball, not in control of any player, touches the frontcourt,
• The ball touches or is legally touched by an offensive player who has both feet in contact with his frontcourt,
• The ball touches or is legally touched by a defensive player who has part of his body in contact with his backcourt,
• The ball touches an official who has part of his body in contact with the frontcourt of the team in control of the ball.
• During a dribble from the backcourt to the frontcourt, both feet of the dribbler and the ball are in contact with the frontcourt.

plus the other criteria mentioned.
On any of the first four, you could say "is in the front court" where that means "is touching the FC and not the BC or is in the air having left the FC".

Or, you could just refer to 4-player location and ball-location. That's all what "ball in the FC" means on the list of 4 points.

And, your items 3 and 4 on your list of 4 points are also incorrect. A need not touch the ball in the FC or touch the ball in the BC to have a violation.
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Old Thu Oct 28, 2010, 09:05am
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On any of the first four, you could say "is in the front court" where that means "is touching the FC and not the BC or is in the air having left the FC".

Or, you could just refer to 4-player location and ball-location. That's all what "ball in the FC" means on the list of 4 points.

And, your items 3 and 4 on your list of 4 points are also incorrect. A need not touch the ball in the FC or touch the ball in the BC to have a violation.
SmokeEater says he's from Canada...could this be a possible rule difference between U.S. codes and FIBA?
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Old Thu Oct 28, 2010, 09:15am
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So it is better described as;

The team in control has caused the ball to go into its frontcourt whenever:
• The ball, not in control of any player, touches the frontcourt,
• The ball touches or is legally touched by an offensive player who has both feet in contact with his frontcourt,
• The ball touches or is legally touched by a defensive player who has part of his body in contact with his backcourt,
• The ball touches an official who has part of his body in contact with the frontcourt of the team in control of the ball.

• During a dribble from the backcourt to the frontcourt, both feet of the dribbler and the ball are in contact with the frontcourt.

plus the other criteria mentioned.
Both feet touching the FC isn't necessary. Just say "a player with FC status," as it includes all the possibilities. Something touching the FC with nothing touching the BC; or an airborne player who jumped from the FC.
The ones in red are wrong. FC/BC is determined by the team in control, so as long as the defensive player has part of his body in the offensive BC, he has BC status. The same goes for an official. In either of these two, if anything is touching the offensive BC when that person touches the ball, it maintains BC status.
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Old Thu Oct 28, 2010, 12:23pm
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Both feet touching the FC isn't necessary. Just say "a player with FC status," as it includes all the possibilities. Something touching the FC with nothing touching the BC; or an airborne player who jumped from the FC.
The ones in red are wrong. FC/BC is determined by the team in control, so as long as the defensive player has part of his body in the offensive BC, he has BC status. The same goes for an official. In either of these two, if anything is touching the offensive BC when that person touches the ball, it maintains BC status.
Must be the difference from FIBA and US. This is right from the rule book I have been given. So perhaps I have jsut messed up the whole situation by jumping in.
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Must be the difference from FIBA and US.
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