Running clock & thoughts from officials

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Maybe you need to tell us what exactly it is that you need a better understanding of. Not stopping the clock is pretty dang easy. Stop it only when you are supposed to (sound like that means time outs and free throws in your area... just time outs here). What is there to understand. Trust me, if you ask your school AD how to not stop the clock, you're going to be laughed at... maybe not to your face, but it WILL happen.

As I stated in an earlier post, differnet state associations have different rules regarding the same thing.

Concerning the school AD, at times, I question his capabilities especially when it comes to Game Day Operations. However with him being the AD, he is supposed to be on top of all new rules/regulations. What I'd be asking him is just his thoughts of the rule & if all personnel involved are going to be notified.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by chseagle

1) As I stated in an earlier post, differnet state associations have different rules regarding the same thing.

2) Concerning the school AD, at times, I question his capabilities especially when it comes to Game Day Operations.

1) If different states have their own local timing rules, it's no concern of yours. If you're talking about your own state, I doubt very much the WIAA will let any local associations play with their state rules. And....a 30-second trip to Google to look up the WIAA website finds that all you freaking have to do is send an e-mail to Cindy Adsit, the WIAA Assistant Executive Director for basketball and she'll answer any question about timing you might have. Her e-mail is:
[email protected]
Please don't tell her that it was me who gave you her e-mail addy. I might have to go in the Witness Protection Program if she ever finds out who sicced you on her.

2) I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell ya!

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

1) If different states have their own local timing rules, it's no concern of yours. If you're talking about your own state, I doubt very much the WIAA will let any local associations play with their state rules. And....a 30-second trip to Google to look up the WIAA website finds that all you freaking have to do is send an e-mail to Cindy Adsit, the WIAA Assistant Executive Director for basketball and she'll answer any question about timing you might have. Her e-mail is:
[email protected]
Please don't tell her that it was me who gave you her e-mail addy. I might have to go in the Witness Protection Program if she ever finds out who sicced you on her.

2) I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell ya!

I've sent e-mails to Cindy before, so I do know how to get ahold of her.

I know the WIAA Website, as that's how I found out about the Running Clock being added for this year, by looking it up on the PDF of the 2010-2011 WIAA Handbook.

How are you shocked?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by chseagle

How are you shocked?

He's not shocked.
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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

However with him being the AD, he is supposed to be on top of all new rules/regulations.

I seriously doubt if one of his responsibilities is to know all the playing rules for all the sports.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I seriously doubt if one of his responsibilities is to know all the playing rules for all the sports.

Ok, let me rephrase then, the AD is supposed to know all rules/regualtions for all sports to ensure those that are doing scoreboard/timing operations are fully aware of their duties.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Ok, let me rephrase then, the AD is supposed to know all rules/regualtions for all sports to ensure those that are doing scoreboard/timing operations are fully aware of their duties.

Getting rather ambitious now, aren't we. You're not satisfied with maneuvering for the HEAD Scorekeeper's job and now you're gunning for the AD's position??
Post your principal's contact info so we can apprise him of our endorsement.
Heck, I'll bet you can probably handle both positions and do crowd control on the side. What a bargain, 3 fer 1. Great idea in these budget conscious times!!
Tidy up your CV and go for it

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Getting rather ambitious now, aren't we. You're not satisfied with maneuvering for the HEAD Scorekeeper's job and now you're gunning for the AD's position??
Post your principal's contact info so we can apprise him of our endorsement.
Heck, I'll bet you can probably handle both positions and do crowd control on the side. What a bargain, 3 fer 1. Great idea in these budget conscious times!!
Tidy up your CV and go for it

Thanks for the ideas, I'll just go for the Superintendent's job while I'm at it. NOT

When I was talking about game-day operations, I was meaning other aspects besides the sport itself.

I could never the place of either the AD or Principal, & I would never try to do so.

The person that's been doing the Varsity games has been doing better. She appreciates my help & suggestions as during last year's games I did assist with shot clock operations during Varsity Games when I could. So with time she is getting better.

Unless there are other table crews that do so, I am the only one, that I know of, that has a copy of the "Duties & Regulations for Timers & Scorers of Basketball Games", as well as a copy of the Shot Clock Rules/Regulations with me while at the table. I wish more would have these with them in case questions did arise. As during the past couple of years these have come in handy.

[lpneck]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Ok, let me rephrase then, the AD is supposed to know all rules/regualtions for all sports to ensure those that are doing scoreboard/timing operations are fully aware of their duties.

I am an AD. I have also been a basketball official for 15 years and STILL occasionally recheck, study rules, and ask questions in the sport I am allegedly an expert in.

My experience as a basketball official has taught me that even though I probably have more knowledge of the rules in other sports than the average fan, the last thing I would do is pretend that I know every detail of every rule for the other 11 sports that I administer.

I run an athletic department- not a rules clinic. I trust that the contest officials will be the experts on matters of rules, and if I have a question, they will be able to answer it or send me to a person who knows the answer.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by lpneck

I am an AD. I have also been a basketball official for 15 years and STILL occasionally recheck, study rules, and ask questions in the sport I am allegedly an expert in.

My experience as a basketball official has taught me that even though I probably have more knowledge of the rules in other sports than the average fan, the last thing I would do is pretend that I know every detail of every rule for the other 11 sports that I administer.

I run an athletic department- not a rules clinic. I trust that the contest officials will be the experts on matters of rules, and if I have a question, they will be able to answer it or send me to a person who knows the answer.

I was not meaning knowing every single rule/regulation. I was meaning those that pertain to the operations of the game (timer, scorer, materials needed, etc.) & any changes made in those rules/regulations that could affect that which I mentioned before.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I was not meaning knowing every single rule/regulation. I was meaning those that pertain to the operations of the game (timer, scorer, materials needed, etc.) & any changes made in those rules/regulations that could affect that which I mentioned before.

Why should the AD know those things? The table crew has been hired to know those things. The AD's only duty is to make sure the materials needed are provided....clocks, scorebooks, etc.

In many areas, the AD hires the referees. It doesn't mean they should know how to referee.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why should the AD know those things? The table crew has been hired to know those things. The AD's only duty is to make sure the materials needed are provided....clocks, scorebooks, etc.

In many areas, the AD hires the referees. It doesn't mean they should know how to referee.

For just in case the AD might have to cover for someone being ill. Also the AD should know how to operate the scoreboard without any problems.

Hopefully this last statement has changed since last year, as that's what happened.

The poor AD's head would explode if they had to know all the rules officials have to know. I can see an AD being an official for 1 or 2 sports their school participates in, just not every single sport.