Do we shoot FT or is the game over?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

We aren't going to count the basket if the shot is after the horn...or are we?

Good point; I missed that the horn went off prior to release. That changes everything, BTW. The ball is dead at the horn since the try hadn't been released yet. No foul (unless it's intentional or flagrant contact), and no free throws.

[bainsey]

So, it's none of the above. We ain't shootin' free throws, and a tie game certainly can't be over!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

So, it's none of the above. We ain't shootin' free throws, and a tie game certainly can't be over!

Right, a game of knockout would ensue.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

So, it's none of the above. We ain't shootin' free throws, and a tie game certainly can't be over!

I'd love to explain this one to a coach that thinks he should get a foul shot to end the game.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I'd love to explain this one to a coach that thinks he should get a foul shot to end the game.

Me too. Too bad the ensuing technical foul free throws couldn't be used to end the 4th quarter.

[tjones1]

Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?

How are you going to shoot FTs for a shot that never happened?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by zm1283

How are you going to shoot FTs for a shot that never happened?

What does the shot happening have to do with being fouled in the act of shooting?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?

Originally Posted by GoodWillRef

...with the ball still in his hands the horn goes off ...

4-1-1 Definition of airborne shooter "...a player who has released the ball on a try..."

6-7-6 Dead Ball "The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when time expires for a quarter or extra period." Exception if a try or tap is IN FLIGHT.

Now see 4-19-1 Note
"Contact after the ball has become dead is ignored unless it is ruled intentional or
flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter."

So the rules say to ignore the contact (unless intentional or flagrant) when the ball becomes dead and then a player who is not an airborne shooter is fouled.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?

The fact that the foul happened after the horn, and the shot was not released prior to the horn. Two key facts for the OP.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The fact that the foul happened after the horn, and the shot was not released prior to the horn. Two key facts for the OP.

Exactly. I started to disagree with an earlier post until I reread the OP. It has a very particular sequence of events that makes all the difference.