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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 12:57pm
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Do we shoot FT or is the game over?
A34 drives to the basket with :03 left in the game he jumps to shot and while in the air with the ball still in his hands the horn goes off and then after the horn but before he lands on the floor B54 fouls A34…do we have anything or is the game over?

If anyone has a rules reference that would be great.
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 01:05pm
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 01:06pm
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 01:10pm
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In your scenario, you'd shoot at least one of the free throws. If he makes the first, game over. If he misses the first, he shoots the second. The only time you don't shoot FTs on a shooting foul is if time has expired in the 4th quarter or OT, and there aren't enough FTs to affect the outcome.
In your scenario, the ball is live until the shot is over.
If, however, the team that would shoot is ahead, you would not shoot.
If the team that would shoot is behind by more points than free throws have been awarded, you would not shoot.
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 01:19pm
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In your scenario, you'd shoot at least one of the free throws. If he makes the first, game over. If he misses the first, he shoots the second. The only time you don't shoot FTs on a shooting foul is if time has expired in the 4th quarter or OT, and there aren't enough FTs to affect the outcome.
In your scenario, the ball is live until the shot is over.
If, however, the team that would shoot is ahead, you would not shoot.
If the team that would shoot is behind by more points than free throws have been awarded, you would not shoot.
We aren't going to count the basket if the shot is after the horn...or are we?
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 01:26pm
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We aren't going to count the basket if the shot is after the horn...or are we?
Good point; I missed that the horn went off prior to release. That changes everything, BTW. The ball is dead at the horn since the try hadn't been released yet. No foul (unless it's intentional or flagrant contact), and no free throws.
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 01:52pm
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So, it's none of the above. We ain't shootin' free throws, and a tie game certainly can't be over!
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So, it's none of the above. We ain't shootin' free throws, and a tie game certainly can't be over!
Right, a game of knockout would ensue.
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So, it's none of the above. We ain't shootin' free throws, and a tie game certainly can't be over!
I'd love to explain this one to a coach that thinks he should get a foul shot to end the game.
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Old Thu Jul 29, 2010, 02:14pm
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I'd love to explain this one to a coach that thinks he should get a foul shot to end the game.
Me too. Too bad the ensuing technical foul free throws couldn't be used to end the 4th quarter.
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Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?
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Old Fri Jul 30, 2010, 12:14am
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A34 drives to the basket with :03 left in the game he jumps to shot and while in the air with the ball still in his hands the horn goes off and then after the horn but before he lands on the floor B54 fouls A34…do we have anything or is the game over?

If anyone has a rules reference that would be great.
That's some SERIOUS hang time
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Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?
How are you going to shoot FTs for a shot that never happened?
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How are you going to shoot FTs for a shot that never happened?
What does the shot happening have to do with being fouled in the act of shooting?
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Good point; I missed that the horn went off prior to release. That changes everything, BTW. The ball is dead at the horn since the try hadn't been released yet. No foul (unless it's intentional or flagrant contact), and no free throws.
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What does the shot happening have to do with being fouled in the act of shooting?
See above. How are you going to shoot FTs if the try had not been released before the horn?

I was using a figure of speech more than anything else.
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