Do we shoot FT or is the game over?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?

Originally Posted by GoodWillRef

...with the ball still in his hands the horn goes off ...

4-1-1 Definition of airborne shooter "...a player who has released the ball on a try..."

6-7-6 Dead Ball "The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when time expires for a quarter or extra period." Exception if a try or tap is IN FLIGHT.

Now see 4-19-1 Note
"Contact after the ball has become dead is ignored unless it is ruled intentional or
flagrant or is committed by or on an airborne shooter."

So the rules say to ignore the contact (unless intentional or flagrant) when the ball becomes dead and then a player who is not an airborne shooter is fouled.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

See above. How are you going to shoot FTs if the try had not been released before the horn?

I was using a figure of speech more than anything else.

If the foul had happened prior to the horn, and the shot was not released prior to the horn, you would still shoot free throws (even if no one saw the clock and thus no time was put back on).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Sounds to me A34 is in the act of shooting...

What am I missing?

The fact that the foul happened after the horn, and the shot was not released prior to the horn. Two key facts for the OP.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The fact that the foul happened after the horn, and the shot was not released prior to the horn. Two key facts for the OP.

Exactly. I started to disagree with an earlier post until I reread the OP. It has a very particular sequence of events that makes all the difference.

[tjones1]

Bingo... thanks. I knew I over read something.

[BLydic]

Great situation! Nice read, thanks to all posters.

[BillyMac]

Rule 6-7: The ball becomes dead, or remains dead, when:

Article 7: A foul, other than player- or team-control, occurs

EXCEPTION: The ball does not become dead until the try or tap ends, or until the airborne shooter returns to the floor, when:

c: Article 7 occurs by any opponent of a player who has started a try or tap for goal (is in the act of shooting) before the foul occurred, provided time did not expire before the ball was in flight. The trying motion must be continuous and begins after the ball comes to rest in the player’s hand(s) on a try or touches the hand(s) on a tap, and is completed when the ball is clearly in flight. The trying motion may include arm, foot or body movements used by the player when throwing the ball at his/her basket.

Wow. Great thread. Before I read this thread, I would have awarded the offensive player two free throws, because he was in the act of shooting, as an airborne shooter, and I would have believed that the ball would remain alive until he landed. I guess that I would have been wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

as an airborne shooter,

You might want to read this definition, too.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You might want to read this definition, too.

AIRBORNE SHOOTER
ART. 1 . . . An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try
for a goal or has tapped the ball and has not returned to the floor.
ART. 2 . . . The airborne shooter is considered to be in the act of shooting.