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Old Mon Jul 26, 2010, 01:52pm
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[*]There are a lot of U1s and U2s out there; I was amazed at how many calls I got about issues that could have been handled without my intervention.
Some clarity, please. Are you talking about umpires in a three-man crew, or do "U1 & U2" have another meaning?
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Old Mon Jul 26, 2010, 02:13pm
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Some clarity, please. Are you talking about umpires in a three-man crew, or do "U1 & U2" have another meaning?
He's referring to officials who are assigned as U1 or U2 in a three man crew becasue they don't yet have the experience, knowledge, know-how- or people skills to be the referee (the man who has all those qualities and can handle a situation before it gets pushed back to the assignor.
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Old Mon Jul 26, 2010, 03:41pm
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He's referring to officials who are assigned as U1 or U2 in a three man crew becasue they don't yet have the experience, knowledge, know-how- or people skills to be the referee (the man who has all those qualities and can handle a situation before it gets pushed back to the assignor.

I'm guessing he might have even been talking about people who were assigned to the R position but acted like a U1/U2.
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Old Mon Jul 26, 2010, 04:24pm
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It can be all of the above, but in this case it was simply calling me on the phone for dumb stuff. This really applies for many occupations. It is like someone who always has to ask versus someone who knows what to do and may or may not back brief.

BNR, I'm thinking the only thing we will have at that time is Men's Rec. July was definitely the month to come out. NBA scrimmages, Euro League tryouts, huge high AAU tournaments. It was like Boo Williams on steroids.
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Old Mon Jul 26, 2010, 04:58pm
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It can be all of the above, but in this case it was simply calling me on the phone for dumb stuff. This really applies for many occupations. It is like someone who always has to ask versus someone who knows what to do and may or may not back brief.

BNR, I'm thinking the only thing we will have at that time is Men's Rec. July was definitely the month to come out. NBA scrimmages, Euro League tryouts, huge high AAU tournaments. It was like Boo Williams on steroids.
I believe Boo has passed all of his random HGH screenings!!!
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Old Mon Jul 26, 2010, 05:29pm
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It can be all of the above, but in this case it was simply calling me on the phone for dumb stuff. This really applies for many occupations. It is like someone who always has to ask versus someone who knows what to do and may or may not back brief.

BNR, I'm thinking the only thing we will have at that time is Men's Wreakage. July was definitely the month to come out. NBA scrimmages, Euro League tryouts, huge high AAU tournaments. It was like Boo Williams on steroids.
Fixed it for ya'.
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Old Tue Jul 27, 2010, 06:47pm
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Fixed it for ya'.
No need to fix it. That is not my opinion of rec ball.
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An official that has respect for himself and the game (IMO) will not work more than four games in a day.
I won't heap "everyone" into the same category and put a definite # on how many games an official can/should do. The official needs to decide when they believe they can not give the effort required.

Interestingly enough - my limit right now is also four (on a large HS court). MS or ES, maybe one more.

A few months back I did a tourney and was asked to do five. After I drove the 45 minutes or so home and pulled up at my house, getting out of my car was quite a challenge.....sore and stiff...... getting old I guess. But, it sure beats the alternative.
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Old Mon Jul 26, 2010, 02:16pm
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Some clarity, please. Are you talking about umpires in a three-man crew, or do "U1 & U2" have another meaning?
I believe Tome is referring that 2 of the officials on the crew did not have an "R" mentality in order to "take care of business" on the floor. An "R" (aka "A Lead") is a leader and steps up to handle any problems/situations that arise.
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tom, I'll be out there in September. Got anything going on the weekend after Labor Day?
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