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Old Wed Jun 23, 2010, 08:39pm
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can't have offensive "kicking" violation?

In a game tonight, A1 dribbling, loses PC, kicks ball. I blow a kicking violation. at half, partner says you can't have an offensive kicking violation. I didn't know that. correct call? or correct partner?
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Old Wed Jun 23, 2010, 08:46pm
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There is no provision in the rule that allows an offensive player to kick the ball. A kick ball violation is a violation for all.

I've had partners say this before. I usually always have my rule books with me and ask them kindly where I can find this "exception."
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Old Wed Jun 23, 2010, 08:57pm
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Now, the question is, did he kick it on purpose? That's all that matters. Typically, in your situation, the offensive player accidentally kicks it while running; no violation in that case.
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Old Wed Jun 23, 2010, 09:13pm
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Now, the question is, did he kick it on purpose? That's all that matters. Typically, in your situation, the offensive player accidentally kicks it while running; no violation in that case.
I had a partner at camp last weekend who insisted on calling a kicking violation every time ball touched leg. Once it hit the back of the defender's leg.
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Old Wed Jun 23, 2010, 09:26pm
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I had an attempted steal bounce off my leg and out of bounds. The coach wanted a kicking violation on me. I told him it wasn't intentional.
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Old Thu Jun 24, 2010, 12:06am
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I had a partner at camp last weekend who insisted on calling a kicking violation every time ball touched leg. Once it hit the back of the defender's leg.

That seems to be a trend among some officials in Georgia, so much so that most coaches believe that any contact with the leg is automatically a kick. This just happened to come up in conversation with some coaches in our program the other night.
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Old Thu Jun 24, 2010, 12:21am
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In a game tonight, A1 dribbling, loses PC, kicks ball. I blow a kicking violation. at half, partner says you can't have an offensive kicking violation. I didn't know that. correct call? or correct partner?
Plus, once he or she loses PC he's no longer offensive player, right?
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Old Thu Jun 24, 2010, 02:45am
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Plus, once he or she loses PC he's no longer offensive player, right?
No, there would still be team control.
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I had a recreation league game many years ago in which Team A was about to start a three on one fast break. Somehow the ball gets loose on the floor. A1 kicks the ball ahead to A2 for the uncontested layup, which didn't count because I called a kicking violation. Come to find out that A1 was a star player on the high school soccer team who was playing basketball in the winter to stay in shape.
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I posted once a few years ago about a girl catching the ball on purpose between her legs. I called a violation and then took some time to explain intentional contact with the leg is a violation before she got T'd up. Honestly I could see it in her face as I made the call that an explanation was needed.
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Old Thu Jun 24, 2010, 10:22am
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No, there would still be team control.
Ahhh. I'm a dope. Because there could still be a backcourt violation... Duh!
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Ahhh. I'm a dope. Because there could still be a backcourt violation... Duh!
Or a team control foul...or 3 seconds.
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Ahhh. I'm a dope. Because there could still be a backcourt violation... Duh!
Well, we don't say there's still team control because there could be BC violation. That's a symptom, not a cause.

There's still team control because none of the 3 things that ends team control has happened.
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Well, we don't say there's still team control because there could be BC violation. That's a symptom, not a cause.

There's still team control because none of the 3 things that ends team control has happened.
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Come to find out that A1 was a star player on the high school soccer team who was playing basketball in the winter to stay in shape.

Soccer - that's that game for kids who can't use their hands.
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