One T or two - if one, on who?

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I'm not going to try on the rest. You're obviously a lot smarter than me.

But you're flat wrong on this last. Real case - Dallas area coach told his pitcher, (he claims in jest), "If he does that crap again, nail him." Said player did "that crap" again - pitcher nailed him. Batter was in the hospital a while. Coach was sued by both the batter AND the pitcher, and brought up on criminal charges of Endangering a Child, Inciting a Minor to Commit a Crime, AND Battery. Guilty on all 3, lost both civil cases, and I recently heard he was denied parole a few weeks ago. This happened while I lived there, so at least 3 years ago.

I think we agree on this actually. The difference is that the pitcher actually DID hit the batter. Same in this case if the player punched the other player. You also see lawsuits that involve coaches saying things like "We are going to run till we drop" and sure enough a player drops. That is why you are seeing an emphasis in coaching to steer away from things like "Suicides" "Killers" etc because of liability.
The point I was making was if the coach SAID it but the player didn't act on it you would have a tough case to prove criminality.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I think we agree on this actually. The difference is that the pitcher actually DID hit the batter. Same in this case if the player punched the other player. You also see lawsuits that involve coaches saying things like "We are going to run till we drop" and sure enough a player drops. That is why you are seeing an emphasis in coaching to steer away from things like "Suicides" "Killers" etc because of liability.
The point I was making was if the coach SAID it but the player didn't act on it you would have a tough case to prove criminality.

I'm pretty sure the legal definition of assault can include verbal threats of violence. I could be wrong, however.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

The point I was making was if the coach SAID it but the player didn't act on it you would have a tough case to prove criminality.

Nope, the point that you made was that you wouldn't do a damn thing as an official about a coach saying sumthin' like that except maybe tell your partners. No "T"...no ejection...no nothing! And I don't think that anybody else that has responded so far has agreed with you. Shouldn't that tell you something?

Are you MTD Sr.'s evil spawn, by any chance? Trying to keep you on track relative to your original response back in post #4 of this thread is like trying to nail jello to a wall.