Good Sportsmanship

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Nothing. Nothing you can do. This is totally unbelievable and totally unrealistic.

I'm not convinced of that.

While I've never had that happen in basketball, I've had that happen once or twice in soccer when I was working solo and didn't have the best angle, and I had no problem telling the player, "if you want to give up the throw-in, go right ahead."

Granted, soccer officiating empasizes judgment more than the black-and-white world of basketball, but consider this: If you decline someone forfeiting the throw-in, all they would do is stand out of bounds and take the five-second count, anyway. While we can't set aside free throws that are ordered, I don't believe this applies to throw-ins. (If someone has documentation that states otherwise, please post.)

As for JRut's question, I say you handle it like any other objection: state what actually happened, and let's play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I'm not convinced of that.

While I've never had that happen in basketball, I've had that happen once or twice in soccer when I was working solo and didn't have the best angle, and I had no problem telling the player, "if you want to give up the throw-in, go right ahead."

Granted, soccer officiating empasizes judgment more than the black-and-white world of basketball, but consider this: If you decline someone forfeiting the throw-in, all they would do is stand out of bounds and take the five-second count, anyway. While we can't set aside free throws that are ordered, I don't believe this applies to throw-ins. (If someone has documentation that states otherwise, please post.)

All a team has to do is throw the ball in to the other team....in either sport. No need to violate the throwin.

[Judtech]

I think it is pretty cool how they do it in soccer/futbol, but that is something that is 'expected' from the earliest levels of the sport. Not so the case in hoops.
As for the commercial, at the end you see the official start to make a signal then hear a whistle with the NCAA slide appearing. It is giving you the impression that the call WAS changed. But I wouldn't bet on it....oh wait that is another commercial.

[Mark Padgett]

BTW - what product was the commercial for - ritalin?

[just another ref]

If you ask me, which seldom ever happens, the OP would go past good sportsmanship and into something else. Mistakes, both real and imagined, by the officials are a part of the game. Hopefully, the real ones will balance themselves and put no team at at disadvantage. So why give one back?

This would be the equivalent of a slow roller taking a funny hop over the first baseman's glove into right field. The hitter says it isn't fair and heads to the dugout.

[Stat-Man]

I've seen this commercial a number of times and every time I see it, it doesn't look like the kid actually touched the ball.

[icallfouls]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Granted, soccer officiating empasizes judgment more than the black-and-white world of basketball,

Huh? Almost every play in basketball requires judgement. The only judgement in soccer is whether the player is truly injured or just faking.

Its SOCCER, who cares

[Pantherdreams]

Tell the kid: "Just a min. Stand over there (behind the line). Here just hold this ball. Now explain what you were saying again."

Kid: "It should be blue ball. I touched it last"

You: "Really I didn't see it." TWEEET "Five Seconds. Blue Ball"

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

Its SOCCER, who cares

I do, as do others here. Trust me, the respective officiating worlds have their differences. You'd have to work both to know.

Panther, sweet idea, but you might not get away with it if you must have a visible count, and have to explain what you just did.

[Adam]

OMG, we had the OP tonight, but not in a championship game. In a JV girls summer league game. both teams from the same school. Partner calls black ball OOB, I hear someone from the stands yell, "Come on Suzie (not sure about the name), own up and tell them you hit it out of bounds."
Suzie: "I did!"
No, partner did not change the call.

[Nevadaref]

How about this scenario:
Two outs in the 9th with a perfect game on the line.
Batter hits a slow roller between 1st and 2nd.
The 1B fields it and tosses to the pitcher covering.
The batter is out by about a step.
The 1st base umpire incorrectly calls him safe.

The runner knows it and tells the umpire that he missed the call.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

How about this scenario:
Two outs in the 9th with a perfect game on the line.
Batter hits a slow roller between 1st and 2nd.
The 1B fields it and tosses to the pitcher covering.
The batter is out by about a step.
The 1st base umpire incorrectly calls him safe.

The runner knows it and tells the umpire that he missed the call.

Perfect games are overrated. I have 10 perfect game tickets right here. Bought them a week after the game.

[Adam]

Total class from both the umpire and pitcher.

[DLH17]

somewhere, don denkinger is smiling

[Altor]

Had something similar to this on the track this spring. High school, 4x100 relay. Red team was flagged for exchanging the baton beyond the exchange on the third exchange. They crossed the finish line first, but were disqualified.

When the awards custodian went to hand the first place plaques to the anchor of the Blue team in the next lane, the young man said he didn't want them. He explained that when he started his acceleration in that exchange zone, he went out of his lane and interfered with the Red team which caused them to be beyond the exchange zone.

I understand that the young man later apologized to the Red team and their coach and gave the Red anchor his 1st place plaque. Unfortunately, I had to let the official results stand.