Technical or no Technical?

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Judtech- "Now when my partner goes to the coach he can tell them what happened."
Texas Aggie- "informs the partner so that he can go talk with the coach and explain if needed and if possible."
Again, your partner should never be discussing your call with a coach. Ever!
That is terrible advice from both you and Texas Aggie. And I'm sureashell not the only one telling both of you that.
You seem to have real problems comprehending what people are trying to tell you.

Yet strangly absent from either of those quotes were words to the effect "So I don't have to talk to the coach" Before jumping to conclusions, you should have all the information. You just assumed that I would not talk to a coach about a situation. No one asked (except SNAQdaddy) where we position ourselves on 3 person in this situation. No one asked what we would do in a 2 person crew where the calling offiical was not administering FT's. No one asked what we would do in 3 person crew where the calling official stays table side. Knowing the answers to these questions would give you a better understanding of where we are coming from. Nope, you just wanted to jump in and think the worst of two of your fellow officials. Personally, I prefer to think the best of my fellow officials.
What there seems to be is a difference of norms in different areas. In the college or high school games called in this area, there isnt the sensitivity to discussing calls (appropriately) with coaches. Case in point: In a game tonite B50 drives to the basket and gets blocked by W44. Secondary defender W12 pushes B50 while in the air. Lead official comes out with a foul on W12. As we are on the other end, I am now standing next to W's coach. He is insistent that "it was all ball". I tell the coach "You are right 44 had a nice block, however, 12 was underneath and called for the push". According to you this is inappropriate b/c I am discussing my partners call. I should have said "coach, if you don't like it discuss it with them" According to the lead who made the call, who also happens to be one of the local assignors, pointed that situation out to the 3 'newbies' as a good example of a crew working together and diffusing a situation by calming down a coach. We teach our crews to trust each other. But heaven help you after the game if syou sell a fellow official out to a coach!
SNAQmasterflash: Yeah, if it is a player "T" then we usually stay table side. If it is a coach "T" we usually send them opposite. That way if the coach needs to have an early exit, there will be another official right there to do the honors. The thought process is that it avoids the perception that a particular official is "out to get" a coach. That's not to say the calling official on the other side of the floor wont come toss the coach!!!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Yet strangly absent from either of those quotes were words to the effect "So I don't have to talk to the coach" ...

I'm still trying to figure out why any official needs to "explain" or "tell" anything to a coach after that coach has received a Technical.

[Pantherdreams]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I'm still trying to figure out why any official needs to "explain" or "tell" anything to a coach after that coach has received a Technical.

My best guess is the same reasons shows like 24 and Lost are so popular. Even refs are human and humans seem to be attracted to unfolding drama where the most unbelievable thing will happen next.

The real answer is so the coach knows the type and nature of the foul. Delay of game, behaviour, reporting error and so that the coach knows what exactly to avoid in the future.

They're only coaches for gawd sakes, if you don't teach them who will :P

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

They're only coaches for gawd sakes, if you don't teach them who will :P

It's like when a dog pees on the carpet; you either catch them right away or you have to rub their nose in it before you punish them. Since we're not allowed to rub the coach's noses in anything, we have to punish them right away; thus perhaps this response would be best: "Coach, I didn't hear it, but I would have to assume whatever you said right before the whistle is what got you your T."

[Judtech]

Now that would fit in perfectly with my smartazz, sarcastic nature!!! I love that line, and the reaction from the coach would probably earn him/her a free trip out of the gym!!!
OT - My first year on varsity, I had a coach yell at me "You can't call that!!" I said, "Yes I can, I just did" On an unrelated note, soon after that interaction, I issued my first technical foul on the varsity level. Since then I have worked hard on the internal filter

[Tio]

I think the technical foul was clearly earned in this case.

You are very right in that as a younger looking official, on most nights, you will be the unknown to the coach. My advice would be to: 1. Get your plays right, 2. Offer professional responses to questions 3. Listen to coaches when they have a genuine concern and are voicing so in a professional manner.

I think if you follow those rules, then you just need to get games so that the coaches see that you can work and develop trust in your abilities.