Clark Kellogg

[bainsey]

In a field where announcers often get rules wrong, I've always found Clark Kellogg refreshingly correct with his analysis. He's one of the few that I've heard use correct phrases, such as "legal guarding position" and "ON the back." (He won me over when he correctly pointed out that "over the back" is not a foul.)

That said, I cringed a bit after Duke's Scheyer drew a charge. I believe the official had it right, as LGP was clear before contact. Kellogg disagreed, saying that Scheyer went "into the path" of the dribbler. Kellogg used this "into the path" phrase later that night, too.

Before I go off and opine how such myths make our jobs tougher, I should appeal to the veterans of this forum. Is there anything in the NCAA rules that says it's a blocking foul if you go "into the path" of a dribbler? (Aside, of course, from when a shooter goes airborne, at which point LGP cannot be established.)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bainsey

In a field where announcers often get rules wrong, I've always found Clark Kellogg refreshingly correct with his analysis. He's one of the few that I've heard use correct phrases, such as "legal guarding position" and "ON the back." (He won me over when he correctly pointed out that "over the back" is not a foul.)

That said, I cringed a bit after Duke's Scheyer drew a charge. I believe the official had it right, as LGP was clear before contact. Kellogg disagreed, saying that Scheyer went "into the path" of the dribbler. Kellogg used this "into the path" phrase later that night, too.

Before I go off and opine how such myths make our jobs tougher, I should appeal to the veterans of this forum. Is there anything in the NCAA rules that says it's a blocking foul if you go "into the path" of a dribbler? (Aside, of course, from when a shooter goes airborne, at which point LGP cannot be established.)

Personally, I thought there was a charge that was a horrible call. I don't know if it's the same one you're talking about as the player clearly wasn't a dribbler when it happened.

The shooter was already airborne and the Duke defender subsequently slid sideways to draw contact in the torso. I thought that was a no-brainer block that, for whatever reason, got missed.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Personally, I thought there was a charge that was a horrible call. I don't know if it's the same one you're talking about as the player clearly wasn't a dribbler when it happened.

The shooter was already airborne and the Duke defender subsequently slid sideways to draw contact in the torso. I thought that was a no-brainer block that, for whatever reason, got missed.

I agree, for the same reason. Scheyer slid to his right AFTER the shooter became airborne. But, it was bang bang.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by DLH17

I agree, for the same reason. Scheyer slid to his right AFTER the shooter became airborne. But, it was bang bang.

And it was called by the L who was in the middle of a rotation at the time...that's probably why it was mis-called (imo).

[ajs8207]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And it was called by the L who was in the middle of a rotation at the time...that's probably why it was mis-called (imo).

Definitely why it was missed. Thats very hard to see normally, let alone during a rotation. The crew had a great game. That being said, I'm sure Cahill is going to want that call back if he sees it on film.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by ajs8207

Definitely why it was missed. Thats very hard to see normally, let alone during a rotation. The crew had a great game. That being said, I'm sure Cahill is going to want that call back if he sees it on film.

I'm assuming the L hustling towards the play since it was on the "near" block.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Personally, I thought there was a charge that was a horrible call. I don't know if it's the same one you're talking about as the player clearly wasn't a dribbler when it happened.

The shooter was already airborne and the Duke defender subsequently slid sideways to draw contact in the torso. I thought that was a no-brainer block that, for whatever reason, got missed.

There was one by that big goof, Zoubeck, that they called a charge that I thought was a definite block. That might be the one you're thinking of; it came from the left side. On the replay, it looked like he definitely slid sideways. It would have been his fifth foul too.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

There was one by that big goof, Zoubeck, that they called a charge that I thought was a definite block. That might be the one you're thinking of; it came from the left side. On the replay, it looked like he definitely slid sideways. It would have been his fifth foul too.

Agree. Moved his upper body into the shooter.