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Old Tue Mar 16, 2010, 07:33am
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Maybe the official's realized that whacking someone for dunking in the warm up is a great way to piss off an entire team.
OK, so let me see if I have this right in your scenario:

- A1 knowingly dunks the ball.
- The Team/Coach know this is against the rules and understands the penalty.
- The referees rightfully enforce the rules and assess the penalty.

Team A gets pissed off and does what?

Referees call the game as always......I see no problems.
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Old Tue Mar 16, 2010, 11:27pm
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OK, so let me see if I have this right in your scenario:

- A1 knowingly dunks the ball.
- The Team/Coach know this is against the rules and understands the penalty.
- The referees rightfully enforce the rules and assess the penalty.

Team A gets pissed off and does what?

Referees call the game as always......I see no problems.

I've said it before, and I will continue to say it that it is a foolish rule.I've heard the arguments about having to replace a backboard after a hard dunk during the warm ups but if that's the case should we not ban dunking period?

I think there are much bigger fish to fry.

I've said it. It's my opinion and that's all there is too it you can't fault me for stating my opinion, so no need to flame me.
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Old Wed Mar 17, 2010, 06:11am
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Maybe the official's realized that whacking someone for dunking in the warm up is a great way to piss off an entire team.
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I've said it before, and I will continue to say it that it is a foolish rule.I've heard the arguments about having to replace a backboard after a hard dunk during the warm ups but if that's the case should we not ban dunking period?

I think there are much bigger fish to fry.

I've said it. It's my opinion and that's all there is too it you can't fault me for stating my opinion, so no need to flame me.
Constable, I did not flame you.

My point was - there is a rule (like it or not), and as an official, I am not going to concern myself with "pissing off" (your words) an entire team for enforcing a rule that most, if not everyone, knows.

Should we not give an unsporting T's for taunting or chest thumping because it would "piss off" an entire team? Inappropriate Backboard slaps? Chinups on the rim? Intentional fouls? Enforcing these rules could "piss off" an entire team. Where do we draw the line?

You're entitled to your opinion. I respect it.

Me, in this case, WHACK! And the player and I are going over to the coach and HE is going to explain why the game will start off with the T and shooting foul shots.

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Old Wed Mar 17, 2010, 06:35am
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You're entitled to your opinion. I respect it.

I respect his right to have an opinion. I sureasheck don't respect his opinion though.

Worrying about whether any call is gonna piss off a team is ridiculous in my opinion. And that's not a flame either; it's an opinion.
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Old Wed Mar 17, 2010, 06:48am
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I respect his right to have an opinion. I sureasheck don't respect his opinion though.
Exactly. Just like on the court, people need to learn to distinguish between "you're wrong" and "you're an idiot." Only one of those is a flame.

OTOH, some posters need to learn how to say "you're wrong" without implying "you're an idiot." (I'm not implying that JR is among those.)
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Old Wed Mar 17, 2010, 06:56am
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OTOH, some posters need to learn how to say "you're wrong" without implying "you're an idiot." (I'm not implying that JR is among those.)
You're right.

You're also an idiot.


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You're right.

You're also an idiot.


Set yourself up for that one, didn't ya?
Uh, takes one to know one.
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Exactly. Just like on the court, people need to learn to distinguish between "you're wrong" and "you're an idiot." Only one of those is a flame.
What about "You're wrong, you idiot"?
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Old Wed Mar 17, 2010, 12:57pm
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What about "You're wrong, you idiot"?
Ah, I see you've been talking to my wife!
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Old Wed Mar 17, 2010, 07:32am
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I've said it before, and I will continue to say it that it is a foolish rule.I've heard the arguments about having to replace a backboard after a hard dunk during the warm ups but if that's the case should we not ban dunking period?

I think there are much bigger fish to fry.

I've said it. It's my opinion and that's all there is too it you can't fault me for stating my opinion, so no need to flame me.
It's one thing to think a rule should be changed. Heck, I think there's even a thread on that.

It's another to not call the rule.
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Old Thu Mar 18, 2010, 09:12am
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I've said it before, and I will continue to say it that it is a foolish rule.I've heard the arguments about having to replace a backboard after a hard dunk during the warm ups but if that's the case should we not ban dunking period?

I think there are much bigger fish to fry.

I've said it. It's my opinion and that's all there is too it you can't fault me for stating my opinion, so no need to flame me.
So what other rules don't you like? If every offiical decided he/she wasn't going to enforce some rules they don't like would that be okay with you? Enforce the rules and "by rule" your butt is covered. Ignoring a rule will only get you in hot water. Good luck with YOUR OPINION!
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Old Thu Mar 18, 2010, 09:24am
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Was it in a different post?

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So what other rules don't you like? If every offiical decided he/she wasn't going to enforce some rules they don't like would that be okay with you? Enforce the rules and "by rule" your butt is covered. Ignoring a rule will only get you in hot water. Good luck with YOUR OPINION!
I don't see where constable says he doesn't enforce it, was it in a different post maybe?

Or are you saying we aren't allowed to have opinions on the rules? You might want to ask the mods delete the rule change threads, then.
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