Handling Coaches After T

[doubleringer]

This is definitely part of a pregame. In general, I like to stay tableside if the T is on a player or an assistant coach, and the head coach seems to be in a frame of mind that will allow for communciation, I'll stay at the table. If the T is on the head coach or if the head coach seems to be fired up about a call, rotate away and have another official manage them.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Drizzle

...someone else should go tableside to attempt to diffuse the situation if necessary...

Originally Posted by doubleringer

...rotate away and have another official manage them.

This is what I pregame - something I got from a D1 official: If one of us gives a coach a T, the other two officials will not engage that coach until the calling official does. I also ammend it for high school to say the only thing I will say to a coach (from a distance), "Coach, you must remain seated for the rest of the game" and then I show him or her my back side because that is all I have to say. Another friend of mine who is in the D-League says we shouldn't even say anything to them about remaining seated. In his opinion, they should know the rule.

Point is, if a coach's behavior has earned him or her a T, 1) there shoudn't be any "managing" necessary and 2) an official shouldn't go over there and give the coach a shoulder to cry on. No, you (the coach) did what you did, my partner thought it was worthy of a T and since my partner is part of my team I'm not going to do anything that could possibly perceived as undermining him or her (my partner). This is along the lines of explaining one of my partners' calls. I'm just not going to do it.

[Judtech]

This is something that gets reveiwed every pregame I think I have had. Regardless of who gets a "T" at least one other official should huddle up with the ref who whislted the "T". This gives a chance for the one official to "cool down" if needed and for the other one to get the information as to why there was a T etc. Especially with coaches, this then lets the coach either continue to show their tail or calm down. If the coach continues to act up , then there is another official who can send them packing.
This doesn't always work, as the offenses in the first and secon T come fairly fast. For instance, as you report your T the player comes by and curses etc. but as a rule of thumb () this seems to have worked well for my games

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by tomegun

and then I show him or her my back side because that is all I have to say.

I did this to a female coach and she said, "Whoa - you have a cute butt."

OK, not really.

[Drizzle]

Originally Posted by tomegun

This is what I pregame - something I got from a D1 official: If one of us gives a coach a T, the other two officials will not engage that coach until the calling official does. I also ammend it for high school to say the only thing I will say to a coach (from a distance), "Coach, you must remain seated for the rest of the game" and then I show him or her my back side because that is all I have to say. Another friend of mine who is in the D-League says we shouldn't even say anything to them about remaining seated. In his opinion, they should know the rule.

Point is, if a coach's behavior has earned him or her a T, 1) there shoudn't be any "managing" necessary and 2) an official shouldn't go over there and give the coach a shoulder to cry on. No, you (the coach) did what you did, my partner thought it was worthy of a T and since my partner is part of my team I'm not going to do anything that could possibly perceived as undermining him or her (my partner). This is along the lines of explaining one of my partners' calls. I'm just not going to do it.

I'm perfectly okay with that approach because, as you and others have said, the main point is to pre-game this scenario so your partners know what you want each other to do. The last thing you want during the administration of a T is for the crew to look confused.
This also may be a check your local listings situation, as the way I stated earlier is the one our local leadership has recommended, so I'm going to abide by their wishes.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by Drizzle

I'm perfectly okay with that approach because, as you and others have said, the main point is to pre-game this scenario so your partners know what you want each other to do. The last thing you want during the administration of a T is for the crew to look confused.
This also may be a check your local listings situation, as the way I stated earlier is the one our local leadership has recommended, so I'm going to abide by their wishes.

So you are saying if a coach calls me a MF, your local association says it is OK for you to skip over there and listen to what else he has to say? BOOOING, my BS flag just went up.

[Drizzle]

Originally Posted by tomegun

So you are saying if a coach calls me a MF, your local association says it is OK for you to skip over there and listen to what else he has to say? BOOOING, my BS flag just went up.

No, that is not what I'm saying. Nowhere was a MF or something similar talked about in my example. Let me be clear, if I T a coach, and he drops anything like a MF while I'm reporting or walking away, I'm the one who will be issuing the T & the accompanying ejection.

But if it's a situation more like the ones I've had before, instead of turning my back like what works for you, I'd rather administer the FTs or throw-in and let one of my partners seatbelt him and trust them to T & eject should the coach remain out of control. As long as we pre-game the situation so everyone is on the same page, I do not see my partner going over there as undermining me. Last time I was the person going over there, I listened to him rant for a few seconds, told the coach he crossed the line and he needed to remain seated. That's what we pre-gamed, so that's what I did.

Originally Posted by drizzle

...the main point is to pre-game this scenario so your partners know what you want each other to do.