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Old Sun Feb 21, 2010, 11:06pm
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Let me try this, what would you have in this situation?

After a made basket A1 goes to throw the ball inbounds. A1 passes the ball along the endline to A2. A2 has stepped OB to catch the pass (you know the play I am describing here) ...

The ball has been released by A1 and B1 reaches over the boundary of the endline and deflects the pass. The ball is not in possesion of A1 or A2. B1 is standing inbounds.

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Old Sun Feb 21, 2010, 11:34pm
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Let me try this, what would you have in this situation?

After a made basket A1 goes to throw the ball inbounds. A1 passes the ball along the endline to A2. A2 has stepped OB to catch the pass (you know the play I am describing here) ...

The ball has been released by A1 and B1 reaches over the boundary of the endline and deflects the pass. The ball is not in possesion of A1 or A2. B1 is standing inbounds.

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In this situation it would be a technical foul charged to B1 per Case book play 10.3.10 Situation B.
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Old Sun Feb 21, 2010, 11:41pm
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In this situation it would be a technical foul charged to B1 per Case book play 10.3.10 Situation B.
The key difference is in the Note on 9.2.10. OK to touch on a throw in pass. The pass to an OB teammate is not a throw in pass, therefore the technical.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 06:42am
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Let me try this, what would you have in this situation?

After a made basket A1 goes to throw the ball inbounds. A1 passes the ball along the endline to A2. A2 has stepped OB to catch the pass (you know the play I am describing here) ...

The ball has been released by A1 and B1 reaches over the boundary of the endline and deflects the pass. The ball is not in possesion of A1 or A2. B1 is standing inbounds.

Does that help?
Johnny,
As I documented earlier, the defense MAY break the defensive plane as soon as the ball has been released for a throw-in (by definition, thrown directly onto the court). However, 7-5-7 states . . . A throw-in anywhere along the end line after a goal or an awarded goal for basket interference or goaltending by a defensive player, as in 9-12 Penalty 1, the team not credited with the score shall make a throw-in from the end of the court where the goal was made and from any point outside the end line.
a. Any player of the team may make a direct throw-in or he/she may pass the ball along the end line to a teammate(s) outside the boundary.

Since this was a pass between A1 and A2, it was NOT a throw-in, therefore, a technical foul is to be assessed (per Case Play already documented).
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 07:45am
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What if, the ball is in front of A1 and A2? In other words, it's on the inbond side of the end line. Even though both players are out of bounds, is it still a violation since the throw in has not ended?
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 08:03am
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What if, the ball is in front of A1 and A2? In other words, it's on the inbond side of the end line. Even though both players are out of bounds, is it still a violation since the throw in has not ended?
No violation and the throw-in does end when the ball was legally touched in-bounds as above.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 08:14am
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What if, the ball is in front of A1 and A2? In other words, it's on the inbond side of the end line. Even though both players are out of bounds, is it still a violation since the throw in has not ended?
Ignats,
I am not sure exactly whether you are asking a different question completely or if you are asking a question related to the OP. If you are asking a question related to the OP -- in other words, is the defense penalized for touching the ball, in this case, I would ask two questions. If a player holds the ball over the out of bounds line into the court, can the defender touch/grab the ball? In other words, if A1 extends the ball onto the court and B1 grabs the ball resulting in simultaneous possession, do you call a held ball or a technical foul? How YOU answer these questions will lead you to the answer to your question.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 09:17am
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As I thought it through after posting------duh. That's what I get for posting before coffee
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