Traveling...Right Call?

[bas2456]

Had this in my 7th grade game tonight, early in the third quarter

A1 gets the ball in his backcourt. He thinks he's still shooting at the basket they shot at in the first half. He shoots it, airballs, and runs over and catches his miss.

I called a travel, here's why.

Team A had team control. As we all know, team control ends when there is a try for goal. However, since this kid was shooting at the wrong basket, it really wasn't a try for goal. Therefore, team control still existed when he shot at the wrong basket. Travel.

Is my logic correct?

[just another ref]

Need a little more information. Had he used his dribble and did the ball touch the floor?

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Need a little more information. Had he used his dribble and did the ball touch the floor?

I can't remember if he had used his dribble already or not.

The ball definitely did not touch the floor.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bas2456

I can't remember if he had used his dribble already or not.

The ball definitely did not touch the floor.

Then you are right, it was a violation.

[bas2456]

So if he hadn't used his dribble already, and the ball touched the floor, he could keep dribbling without violating?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by bas2456

So if he hadn't used his dribble already, and the ball touched the floor, he could keep dribbling without violating?

correct

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bas2456

Team A had team control. As we all know, team control ends when there is a try for goal. However, since this kid was shooting at the wrong basket, it really wasn't a try for goal. Therefore, team control still existed when he shot at the wrong basket. Travel.

Is my logic correct?

Nearly. Team control is not the relevant kind for determining traveling.

[hoopguy]

just another ref Quote:
Originally Posted by bas2456
So if he hadn't used his dribble already, and the ball touched the floor, he could keep dribbling without violating?

correct

That would depend upon when the pivot foot was lifted. Most shooters jump to shoot before releasing the ball and that would still be a travel. If the shooter had not lifted his pivot foot before the release then correct.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

That would depend upon when the pivot foot was lifted. Most shooters jump to shoot before releasing the ball and that would still be a travel. If the shooter had not lifted his pivot foot before the release then correct.

...you sure about that?

What about the player who has ended their dribble...then jumps in the air to PASS the ball.

The player "lifted the pivot foot"...so you are saying that would be a travel?

4-44-3a

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...you sure about that?

What about the player who has ended their dribble...then jumps in the air to PASS the ball.

The player "lifted the pivot foot"...so you are saying that would be a travel?

4-44-3a

But it's a violation to start a dribble while the pivot foot is off the ground (4.43.3 A (d))

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bas2456

But it's a violation to start a dribble while the pivot foot is off the ground (4.43.3 A (d))

I believe RookieDude knew that, his point was that moving the pivot foot itself is not illegal. It is only illegal if you start to dribble and your pivot foot moves.

Peace

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I believe RookieDude knew that, his point was that moving the pivot foot itself is not illegal. It is only illegal if you start to dribble and your pivot foot moves.

Peace

I see...I read his post wrong at first.

[Adam]

Yes, but hoopguy's post was in direct response to a question about whether the player could continue a dribble.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yes, but hoopguy's post was in direct response to a question about whether the player could continue a dribble.

Thanks Snaqs...I took hoopguy's statement out of context.

[just another ref]

The OP was a set shot.

Some things you just know.