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bas2456 Mon Feb 22, 2010 01:08am

Traveling...Right Call?
 
Had this in my 7th grade game tonight, early in the third quarter

A1 gets the ball in his backcourt. He thinks he's still shooting at the basket they shot at in the first half. He shoots it, airballs, and runs over and catches his miss.

I called a travel, here's why.

Team A had team control. As we all know, team control ends when there is a try for goal. However, since this kid was shooting at the wrong basket, it really wasn't a try for goal. Therefore, team control still existed when he shot at the wrong basket. Travel.

Is my logic correct?

just another ref Mon Feb 22, 2010 01:13am

Need a little more information. Had he used his dribble and did the ball touch the floor?

bas2456 Mon Feb 22, 2010 01:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 663677)
Need a little more information. Had he used his dribble and did the ball touch the floor?

I can't remember if he had used his dribble already or not.

The ball definitely did not touch the floor.

just another ref Mon Feb 22, 2010 01:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 663678)
I can't remember if he had used his dribble already or not.

The ball definitely did not touch the floor.


Then you are right, it was a violation.

bas2456 Mon Feb 22, 2010 01:30am

So if he hadn't used his dribble already, and the ball touched the floor, he could keep dribbling without violating?

just another ref Mon Feb 22, 2010 01:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 663684)
So if he hadn't used his dribble already, and the ball touched the floor, he could keep dribbling without violating?

correct

mbyron Mon Feb 22, 2010 07:20am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 663676)
Team A had team control. As we all know, team control ends when there is a try for goal. However, since this kid was shooting at the wrong basket, it really wasn't a try for goal. Therefore, team control still existed when he shot at the wrong basket. Travel.

Is my logic correct?

Nearly. Team control is not the relevant kind for determining traveling.

hoopguy Mon Feb 22, 2010 01:40pm

Quote:

just another ref Quote:
Originally Posted by bas2456
So if he hadn't used his dribble already, and the ball touched the floor, he could keep dribbling without violating?

correct
That would depend upon when the pivot foot was lifted. Most shooters jump to shoot before releasing the ball and that would still be a travel. If the shooter had not lifted his pivot foot before the release then correct.

RookieDude Mon Feb 22, 2010 03:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopguy (Post 663778)
That would depend upon when the pivot foot was lifted. Most shooters jump to shoot before releasing the ball and that would still be a travel. If the shooter had not lifted his pivot foot before the release then correct.

...you sure about that?

What about the player who has ended their dribble...then jumps in the air to PASS the ball.

The player "lifted the pivot foot"...so you are saying that would be a travel?

4-44-3a

bas2456 Mon Feb 22, 2010 03:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 663832)
...you sure about that?

What about the player who has ended their dribble...then jumps in the air to PASS the ball.

The player "lifted the pivot foot"...so you are saying that would be a travel?

4-44-3a

But it's a violation to start a dribble while the pivot foot is off the ground (4.43.3 A (d))

JRutledge Mon Feb 22, 2010 03:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 663839)
But it's a violation to start a dribble while the pivot foot is off the ground (4.43.3 A (d))

I believe RookieDude knew that, his point was that moving the pivot foot itself is not illegal. It is only illegal if you start to dribble and your pivot foot moves.

Peace

bas2456 Mon Feb 22, 2010 04:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 663840)
I believe RookieDude knew that, his point was that moving the pivot foot itself is not illegal. It is only illegal if you start to dribble and your pivot foot moves.

Peace

I see...I read his post wrong at first.

Adam Mon Feb 22, 2010 04:10pm

Yes, but hoopguy's post was in direct response to a question about whether the player could continue a dribble.

RookieDude Mon Feb 22, 2010 05:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 663842)
Yes, but hoopguy's post was in direct response to a question about whether the player could continue a dribble.

Thanks Snaqs...I took hoopguy's statement out of context.

just another ref Mon Feb 22, 2010 05:17pm

The OP was a set shot.

Some things you just know.:cool:


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