Let me correct a coach's quote

[Rich]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Would love to hear your reasoning behind this.

The defender gave up LGP. He pretty much moved out of the way and the driver's shoulder barely brushed the defender, off to the side. It really was a PC foul waiting to happen, but the defender chose to give up his good position, for some reason.

Rather than "held his ground" I should've said maintained LGP -- that's what I meant.

Earlier in the game, the home coach wanted a foul and asked how there could be no call with "so much contact"? My response was the the defender had "his arms straight up and had legal guarding position all the way." The coach said, "but he was MOVING." That was my cue to get outta there.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The defender gave up LGP. He pretty much moved out of the way and the driver's shoulder barely brushed the defender, off to the side. It really was a PC foul waiting to happen, but the defender chose to give up his good position, for some reason.

Rather than "held his ground" I should've said maintained LGP -- that's what I meant.

Earlier in the game, the home coach wanted a foul and asked how there could be no call with "so much contact"? My response was the the defender had "his arms straight up and had legal guarding position all the way." The coach said, "but he was MOVING." That was my cue to get outta there.

I've taken these kinds of cues from coaches several times this year. I once had a coach tell me that a player needed to have possession of the ball to be fouled.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bas2456

I once had a coach tell me that a player needed to have possession of the ball to be fouled.

Wow, I'm not sure I could have kept my mouth shut on that one. Like when the coach asked me, "So he can shoot from the floor?"

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Wow, I'm not sure I could have kept my mouth shut on that one. Like when the coach asked me, "So he can shoot from the floor?"

Me neither. Took all I had when a coach asked me during a middle school game "Why was that a foul? He didn't knock him down!"

[Paul LeBoutillier]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Like when the coach asked me, "So he can shoot from the floor?"

What exactly was he asking? The question is so weird I'm not even certain what he doesn't know!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Paul LeBoutillier

What exactly was he asking? The question is so weird I'm not even certain what he doesn't know!

The context was a foul my partner had just called during which a shooter was fouled on the arm. He was bent over after having picked up a loose ball and was bringing the ball up to shoot. The contact was probably within about 18 inches of the floor. He was asking why it wasn't "on the floor" and after my partner went opposite (IAABO mechanic), I was T at the bench.

[Paul LeBoutillier]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The context was a foul my partner had just called during which a shooter was fouled on the arm. He was bent over after having picked up a loose ball and was bringing the ball up to shoot. The contact was probably within about 18 inches of the floor.

I get it. He thought "the act of shooting" required the player to have physically left the floor and that as long as his feet remained on the floor he obviously wasn't in the act of shooting the ball.

From time to time I will work a scrimmage with a volunteer ref and based on some of the calls I see I would say this is not entirely uncommon as misconceptions go.

[Adam]

I'm not sure whether he actually thought that, but it was the logical result of the reasoning he was trying to give.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Wow, I'm not sure I could have kept my mouth shut on that one. Like when the coach asked me, "So he can shoot from the floor?"

I was sort of speechless. I just turned and walked away

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

The defender gave up LGP. He pretty much moved out of the way and the driver's shoulder barely brushed the defender, off to the side. It really was a PC foul waiting to happen, but the defender chose to give up his good position, for some reason.

Rather than "held his ground" I should've said maintained LGP -- that's what I meant.

Earlier in the game, the home coach wanted a foul and asked how there could be no call with "so much contact"? My response was the the defender had "his arms straight up and had legal guarding position all the way." The coach said, "but he was MOVING." That was my cue to get outta there.

Right On!