Off Ball Crash

[rfp]

I usually pre-game this. In 2-man, L stays with the ball and T has responsibility for the passer. If defender has and maintains legal guarding position, passer is responsible for the contact: team control foul and a great defensive play.

I've never seen this where the contact happens after the lay-up; that's a lot of time to pass.

[Indianaref]

Originally Posted by rfp

I usually pre-game this. In 2-man, L stays with the ball and T has responsibility for the passer. If defender has and maintains legal guarding position, passer is responsible for the contact: team control foul and a great defensive play.

I've never seen this where the contact happens after the lay-up; that's a lot of time to pass.

Interesting. I have always been told (2 person) that if the ball handler starts his/her drive from your area, you have the crash, the other official (L or T) has the pass.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

Interesting. I have always been told (2 person) that if the ball handler starts his/her drive from your area, you have the crash, the other official (L or T) has the pass.

If you work from a "referee the defense" perspective, sometimes it's better for the ref who's been following the defender throughout the play to take the crash. So if A1 drives down the key, and B1 is stationary in the key, Lead would take the crash, since L has been with the defense all along. T has been following the play, and continues to follow the ball.

IMO, this is a top priority for pre-game, especially to agree about it.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

If you work from a "referee the defense" perspective, sometimes it's better for the ref who's been following the defender throughout the play to take the crash. So if A1 drives down the key, and B1 is stationary in the key, Lead would take the crash, since L has been with the defense all along. T has been following the play, and continues to follow the ball.

IMO, this is a top priority for pre-game, especially to agree about it.

Agree on everything stated here.

[hoopguy]

Our IAABO board interpreter is very specific in stating that in two person mechanics "Lead always stays with the ball and trail has the pass and crash".(this is in reference to the OP on drive down the lane) Could be an IAABO mechanic. I would definitely agree that it should be a part of the pre-game discussion.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

Our IAABO board interpreter is very specific in stating that in two person mechanics "Lead always stays with the ball and trail has the pass and crash".(this is in reference to the OP on drive down the lane) Could be an IAABO mechanic. I would definitely agree that it should be a part of the pre-game discussion.

What if the ball goes way outside of the lead's primary and is right in front of the trail, and the crash is right in front of the lead? This is why we pregame it.

[Camron Rust]

My preferred way to cover it...

Pass to lead's side...lead takes pass, trail takes crash.

Pass to trail's side...trail takes pass, lead takes crash.

This leaves each ref covering the part they can see the best. Otherwise, the lead could be left covering a play across the key through the bodies of the potential "crash".